Posted by editor
on October 21, 2009 at 7:08 AM PDT
At Oracle OpenWorld, in a conversation regarding Oracle's acquisition of Sun, it was stated that "Java speaks for itself"...
At Oracle OpenWorld, in a conversation regarding Oracle's acquisition of Sun, it was stated that "Java speaks for itself." This statement has drawn the scrutiny of quite a number of people (along with the question that was displayed during another of the keynotes, "Is Oracle good for Java?").
This week's java.net poll lets you voice your view on Is Oracle good for Java? . The statement "Java speaks for itself" is also worthy of discussion, I think. I expect that a lot of people have different opinions about this. So, to provide a forum for this discussion, I've published a new item titled Does Java Speak for Itself?
Thus far, I've found two cogent expressions of opinion regarding this statement in the blogosphere. The first is contained in Java Champion Bert Ertman's post Impressions from Oracle OpenWorld: "Is Oracle good for Java?" . Bert says:
the official statement being made by Sun's Scott McNeally and Oracle's Larry Ellison is: "Java speaks for itself." But does it? In fact, I seriously doubt that it does so within Oracle. So far the people from Oracle that I met express a friendly, almost fatherly interest in Java, but they compare it to integrating the Hyperion Query Language into the Oracle stack. They see Java as just another 'product' from Sun and not as the Java platform and ecosystem that it is. So, if Java is speaking for itself within Oracle, than it's no doubt sending them the wrong message!
Meanwhile, Abdelmonaim Remani, founder of the Chico Java User Group, expresses a different viewpoint in his post Oracle/Sun Merger: A Community Perspective :
In the key note, Larry Ellison, the CEO of Oracle, hit the bull's eye when he was quoted as saying that "Java speaks for itself". I have to admit that many people didn't like his answer and considered it ambiguous and unclear, but a deeper look would reveal that it is, indeed, a well-thought-of statement. Java has truly become in the hand of its community; be it the JCP or the contributors to the OpenJDK project. The decisions about the future of the platform are now made uniformly by literally whoever is interested developing it. Doesn't that mean that it speaks for itself?
It's been a long time since the announcement that Oracle is acquiring Sun (that was in April). And, of course, the acquisition process has blocked all possibility of any public statements regarding Oracle's intentions regarding Java. All we really have is our own speculation and attempts to "read the tea leaves" . Still, I think most of us have a view on this.
So, if you'd like to contribute to a discussion on the question "Does Java Speak for Itself?", feel free to visit the page and post a comment.
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