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Web pages need updating: Firefox 3 required

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xsolomon
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Joined: 2006-12-17

I spent a lot of time trying to figure out why deployJava.js wasn't working as
expected. To make a long story short, I found the answer in the plugin2
release notes: https://jdk6.dev.java.net/plugin2/:

Note that the new Java Plug-In does not work in Firefox 2. On the Windows
platform, when the new Java Plug-In is enabled via the Java Control Panel,
launching Firefox 2 will use the classic plug-in and launching Firefox 3
will use the new plug-in. Sun Microsystems and the Mozilla Foundation have
been working closely in order to support the new Java Plug-In in Firefox 3.
Both organizations have mutually decided not to back-port the required
changes which are significant to Firefox 2, as it is expected that most
Firefox users will upgrade to Firefox 3.

Fair enough, but now that plugin2 is part of the "standard" release of javase,
this limitation needs to be displayed more prominently. One good place would
be in the plug installation instructions, particularly

http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/jre/manual-plugin-install-...
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/jre/install-windows.html

etc.

This first of these pages has a couple of occurrences of "If you install
Firefox 1.5...", but no mention of Firefox 2 or 3. The pages for other
platforms are similar. There are other places that are even more out of date,
for example http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/jdk/install-linux.html#tro...

Java Plugin Browser Registration Instructions

You must register the Java Plugin product with Netscape or Mozilla for
the Plugin to work. Click on the following link to see the instructions
for manual registration. Note that for SuSE the 8.1 or higher version
of Mozilla must be used, and for non-SuSE Linux, the version of Mozilla
must be 1.1 or higher. Please follow these instructions:

Manual Registration Instructions

Also see documentation on the Java Plugin component.

Note that the link in the last line points to
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/plugin/index.html
rather than
http://java.sun.com/javase/6/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/index.html

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rogyeu
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Joined: 2006-07-30

Hi xsolomon,

Thanks for reporting the issue. I've opened a bug report for this issue. Bug ID 6776385. You can monitor the status of this issue at http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6776385 . It may take a day or 2 for the bug to show up in the external database.

For your reference, you can submit bugs or RFEs at http://bugreport.sun.com .

Thanks,
Roger Y.

demonduck
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Joined: 2008-03-14

[i]Note that the new Java Plug-In does not work in Firefox 2. On the Windows
platform, when the new Java Plug-In is enabled via the Java Control Panel,
launching Firefox 2 will use the classic plug-in and launching Firefox 3
will use the new plug-in. Sun Microsystems and the Mozilla Foundation have
been working closely in order to support the new Java Plug-In in Firefox 3.
Both organizations have mutually decided not to back-port the required
changes which are significant to Firefox 2, as it is expected that most
Firefox users will upgrade to Firefox 3.[/i]

Yeah, that's been said. Really great isn't it? First you have to overcome the
resistance of the average person to download Java -- then after he get's the
Yahoo toolbar installed by mistake -- then he finds out that he has to
download and upgrade from FF2 to FF3.

At what time during that process do you think the average person will
click the "get me out of here" button????

xsolomon
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Joined: 2006-12-17

My purpose in posting this question was not to gripe about the requirement for FF3. It was to suggest some changes in the web pages. So far, I've received no response. Perhaps this forum is the wrong place to post such suggestions. Where should I post them?

Thanks.

demonduck
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Joined: 2008-03-14

Doesn't matter where you post it. They won't listen and they won't do anything
about it...