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Java Options Gone From Internet Options

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winterland
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When I open Control Panel/Internet Options/Security/Custom in IE7, I no longer have the option to Disable/Enable Java.
I ran IE Reset recently has this affected it?

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demonduck
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> In 6u10, more than one JVM can be attached to the web
> browser at the same time. Implementing the Java
> Console menu option is complicated in this scenario
> and since there are other workarounds (using the
> system tray icon on Windows or turning on the Java
> Console in the Java Control Panel), we decided not to
> spend the time reimplementing this menu option.

Well, what if there is no Task Bar and therefor [he concludes brilliantly] no System Tray?

At our local library, the computers there are configured to not have public access to the
task bar or the start menu. So [b]NO SYSTEM TRAY!!![/b]

Didja ever think of that? Huh?

Just put the stupid Java Console menu item back in the Tools menu and stop trying to
rationalize a poor UI design decision by telling us how it's too inconvenient for you
to put in a hour's work.

I get real nervous knowing that my future income is dependent on the kind of short sighted
and incompetent engineering I see demonstrated in this forum on a daily basis.

micky_g
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Joined: 2008-11-20

By the way, just where is this option to switch between Java and/or M$? You say it's under the advanced tab in IE7? Well I can't see it or find it if it is there and I sat up all bloody night trying to get this Java problem sorted once and for all and I am dead knackered now and still - no Java Console and therefore, no Java and still badly opening websites with no pictures!

kbr
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Are you 100% sure this option was previously there? I don't think the Java Plug-In would have any control over such an option.

There is a checkbox under the Advanced tab in IE 7 which allows you to toggle between the Sun JVM and the Microsoft JVM. Could this be what you are thinking of?

demonduck
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No, I'm not talking about the Internet Options -> Advanced -> [java stuff].

I'm talking about the Tools menu up at the top of the browser in IE6. It sits between
Favorites and Help. In IE6 up to 6u7, there is a Java Console menu item in the Tools
menu. That opens the Java Console. It appears in the Tools menu in FF2 also.

In 6u10, the Java Console menu item in the Tools menu is gone.

I just uninstalled 6u10 and reverted to 6u7 and now the Java Console menu item is there.

When I install 6u10 -- the Java Console menu item disappears from from the Tools menu.

Try it yourself...

micky_g
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I am getting exactly the same problem but with IE7!

One minute the Java Console was there and the next minute, everything has gone 'tits-up' and no Java Console showing! It's always there and working after I have just done a reformat and reinstall but within a week or so, BANG! it's gone and I then start having problems opening websites and seeing pictures on websites, just a red cross in the corner of a huge white box where a picture should be! And this is what we have to put up with? Just becasue, as you rightly said, some fool couldn't be bothered to sit for an hour and write it into the program? What a load of old codswallop!

So the guy from Java reckons the Java Console wasn't put in with the latest Java update? Well he had better check with his staff, because I can assure him, it is (or rather was) there as I have used it, albeit when it was only there temporarily.

That's the trouble with the big multi-nationals (Java wish, as if)? The bigger they are, the less they know what the bloody hell they are doing! It's the same with M$ as well and any other big company! Put the bloody Java Console back where it belongs and where it has always been, so that we know what the hell we are doing and can see where a problem might lie and then try to rectify it! Because Java are certainly not going to help us that's for sure!

demonduck
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If you are talking about 6u10, I think that the Java Dev Team is taking away option like that from browsers. In IE6 / 6u10 there isn't any way to open the Java Console from the Tools menu anymore either.

I don't know why they are doing things like that.

kbr
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In 6u10, more than one JVM can be attached to the web browser at the same time. Implementing the Java Console menu option is complicated in this scenario and since there are other workarounds (using the system tray icon on Windows or turning on the Java Console in the Java Control Panel), we decided not to spend the time reimplementing this menu option.

demonduck
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> In 6u10, more than one JVM can be attached to the web
> browser at the same time. Implementing the Java
> Console menu option is complicated in this scenario
> and since there are other workarounds (using the
> system tray icon on Windows or turning on the Java
> Console in the Java Control Panel), we decided not to
> spend the time reimplementing this menu option.

That is a poor UI design decision. It appears in FF2 using 6u10 but
not in IE6. That is inconsistent and amateurish.