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For those of you who were not there - and that is nearly everyone -
the JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D / JAI BOF session on
Tuesday May 6 are available here:

https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation

Any comments are of course welcome.

>^..^< >^..^<

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Norman,

I'm very interested in your imageio kakadu plugin. My company just bought a commercial license for kakadu to do the same thing. Could we discuss your solution offline sometime? My email is my username here at gmail.

Thanks,

Justin

Nidel, Mike

You might also want to check out the ImageIO-ext project
which has an ImageIO plugin that uses Kakadu via GDAL.

http://imageio-ext.dev.java.net

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> Subject: Re: [JAI-IMAGEIO] JAI@JavaOne 2008 slides posted
>
> Norman,
>
> I'm very interested in your imageio kakadu plugin. My
> company just bought a commercial license for kakadu to do the
> same thing. Could we discuss your solution offline sometime?
> My email is my username here at gmail.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Justin
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Norman Barker

Mike,

I am waiting on my wiki privileges so that I can add the interfaces
for JPIP. Imageio-ext or GDAL doesn't do JPIP, though I imagine one
can be added if we can all agree an imageio jpip interface.

We want to help define the JPIP interface for ImageIO.

Norman

On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Nidel, Mike wrote:
> You might also want to check out the ImageIO-ext project
> which has an ImageIO plugin that uses Kakadu via GDAL.
>
> http://imageio-ext.dev.java.net
>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> [mailto:jai-imageio@javadesktop.org]
>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:49 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [JAI-IMAGEIO] JAI@JavaOne 2008 slides posted
>>
>> Norman,
>>
>> I'm very interested in your imageio kakadu plugin. My
>> company just bought a commercial license for kakadu to do the
>> same thing. Could we discuss your solution offline sometime?
>> My email is my username here at gmail.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Justin
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Nidel, Mike

That sounds like a valuable but daunting task ;)

I'm sure there are others like me who are eagerly awaiting
the results!

Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Norman Barker [mailto:norman.barker@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: interest@jai-imageio.dev.java.net
> Subject: Re: [JAI-IMAGEIO] JAI@JavaOne 2008 slides posted
>
> Mike,
>
> I am waiting on my wiki privileges so that I can add the
> interfaces for JPIP. Imageio-ext or GDAL doesn't do JPIP,
> though I imagine one can be added if we can all agree an
> imageio jpip interface.
>
> We want to help define the JPIP interface for ImageIO.
>
> Norman
>
> On Thu, Jul 10, 2008 at 8:51 AM, Nidel, Mike
> wrote:
> > You might also want to check out the ImageIO-ext project
> which has an
> > ImageIO plugin that uses Kakadu via GDAL.
> >
> > http://imageio-ext.dev.java.net
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 10:49 AM
> >> To: interest@jai-imageio.dev.java.net
> >> Subject: Re: [JAI-IMAGEIO] JAI@JavaOne 2008 slides posted
> >>
> >> Norman,
> >>
> >> I'm very interested in your imageio kakadu plugin. My
> company just
> >> bought a commercial license for kakadu to do the same
> thing. Could
> >> we discuss your solution offline sometime?
> >> My email is my username here at gmail.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Justin
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David Clunie

Hi Brian

Thanks for the slides.

I noticed that the first slide mentions the Mac (as well as
Windows 64).

Is there really progress in this regard, or is it still stalled
for "non-technical reasons" that are not changing ?

Just want to know if should regard the mention of the Mac on the
slides as encouraging, or not.

David

Brian Burkhalter wrote:
> For those of you who were not there - and that is nearly everyone - the
> JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D / JAI BOF session on
> Tuesday May 6 are available here:
>
> https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation
>
> Any comments are of course welcome.
>
> >^..^< >^..^<
>
> Brian Burkhalter
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David,

Please excuse the dilatory nature of my response.

> I noticed that the first slide mentions the Mac (as
> well as Windows 64).
>
> Is there really progress in this regard, or is it
> still stalled for "non-technical reasons" that are not changing ?

I think that is safe to say but I hope to force some kind of decision this season.

> Just want to know if should regard the mention of the
> Mac on the slides as encouraging, or not.

I would like to think so but it remains to be seen.

I am sorry that I am unable to supply the definitive answer we would both like to have.

Brian

Norman Barker

Brian,

slides look good, I see the mention of a jpip client (again) :-)

Can I ask how whether it will be possible to evaluate this plugin
before the main release, I can certainly provide you with some testing
effort. Is this plugin pure Java?!!

Any information you can provide will be appreciated.

thanks,

Norman Barker

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Brian Burkhalter
wrote:
> For those of you who were not there - and that is nearly everyone - the
> JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D / JAI BOF session on Tuesday
> May 6 are available here:
>
> https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation
>
> Any comments are of course welcome.
>
>>^..^< >^..^<
>
> Brian Burkhalter
> Java Imaging and Video
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Brian Burkhalter

On May 15, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Norman Barker wrote:

> Brian,
>
> slides look good, I see the mention of a jpip client (again) :-)

Yeah the effort (obviously) stalled for a while.

> Can I ask how whether it will be possible to evaluate this plugin
> before the main release, I can certainly provide you with some testing
> effort. Is this plugin pure Java?!!

The general intent was to get it out as soon as it is in reasonable
form, probably in an alpha release.

These projects are probably the only ones any more that even call
things "alpha." It seems that what used to be alpha is now called beta
and what used to be beta is now FCS/GA.

Brian

> Any information you can provide will be appreciated.
>
> thanks,
>
> Norman Barker
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Brian Burkhalter
> wrote:
>> For those of you who were not there - and that is nearly everyone -
>> the
>> JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D / JAI BOF session on
>> Tuesday
>> May 6 are available here:
>>
>> https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation
>>
>> Any comments are of course welcome.
>>
>>> ^..^< >^..^<
>>
>> Brian Burkhalter
>> Java Imaging and Video
>> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Ken Warner

"It seems that what used to be alpha is now called beta
and what used to be beta is now FCS/GA."

No crap!!!

Brian Burkhalter wrote:
>
> On May 15, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Norman Barker wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>
>> slides look good, I see the mention of a jpip client (again) :-)
>
>
> Yeah the effort (obviously) stalled for a while.
>
>> Can I ask how whether it will be possible to evaluate this plugin
>> before the main release, I can certainly provide you with some testing
>> effort. Is this plugin pure Java?!!
>
>
> The general intent was to get it out as soon as it is in reasonable
> form, probably in an alpha release.
>
> These projects are probably the only ones any more that even call
> things "alpha." It seems that what used to be alpha is now called beta
> and what used to be beta is now FCS/GA.
>
> Brian
>
>> Any information you can provide will be appreciated.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>> Norman Barker
>>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Brian Burkhalter
>> wrote:
>>
>>> For those of you who were not there - and that is nearly everyone - the
>>> JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D / JAI BOF session on
>>> Tuesday
>>> May 6 are available here:
>>>
>>> https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation
>>>
>>> Any comments are of course welcome.
>>>
>>>> ^..^< >^..^<
>>>
>>>
>>> Brian Burkhalter
>>> Java Imaging and Video
>>> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Brian Burkhalter

Note that I was not referring to anything specifically and in
particular not to Java, of course, but just making a general
observation. ;-)

On May 15, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Ken Warner wrote:

> "It seems that what used to be alpha is now called beta and what
> used to be beta is now FCS/GA."
>
> No crap!!!
>
> Brian Burkhalter wrote:
>> On May 15, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Norman Barker wrote:
>>> Brian,
>>>
>>> slides look good, I see the mention of a jpip client (again) :-)
>> Yeah the effort (obviously) stalled for a while.
>>> Can I ask how whether it will be possible to evaluate this plugin
>>> before the main release, I can certainly provide you with some
>>> testing
>>> effort. Is this plugin pure Java?!!
>> The general intent was to get it out as soon as it is in
>> reasonable form, probably in an alpha release.
>> These projects are probably the only ones any more that even call
>> things "alpha." It seems that what used to be alpha is now called
>> beta and what used to be beta is now FCS/GA.
>> Brian
>>> Any information you can provide will be appreciated.
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>>
>>> Norman Barker
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Brian Burkhalter
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> For those of you who were not there - and that is nearly everyone
>>>> - the
>>>> JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D / JAI BOF session
>>>> on Tuesday
>>>> May 6 are available here:
>>>>
>>>> https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation
>>>>
>>>> Any comments are of course welcome.
>>>>
>>>>> ^..^< >^..^<
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Brian Burkhalter
>>>> Java Imaging and Video
>>>> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Norman Barker

Brian,

I enjoyed the joke :-)

Can you let us on the list know a bit more detail about the jpip client such as;

1) who is writing it :-)
2) is it pure java, if not which library (kakadu, openjpeg, jasper)
3) is it for geospatial or medical

I for one, subject to company approval, am interested in helping with
this (certainly at the least I can test it against our servers and a
wide variety of image data). I have already written a kakadu imageio
plugin, but we can't release this because of the kakadu license where
you can't release a library (which allows others to develop) unless
they also have a kakadu license (at least that is my interpretation).

Full disclosure, I work for ITT VIS, see http://iasdemo.ittvis.com .

Norman

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Brian Burkhalter
wrote:
> Note that I was not referring to anything specifically and in particular not
> to Java, of course, but just making a general observation. ;-)
>
> On May 15, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
>
>> "It seems that what used to be alpha is now called beta and what used to
>> be beta is now FCS/GA."
>>
>> No crap!!!
>>
>> Brian Burkhalter wrote:
>>>
>>> On May 15, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Norman Barker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Brian,
>>>>
>>>> slides look good, I see the mention of a jpip client (again) :-)
>>>
>>> Yeah the effort (obviously) stalled for a while.
>>>>
>>>> Can I ask how whether it will be possible to evaluate this plugin
>>>> before the main release, I can certainly provide you with some testing
>>>> effort. Is this plugin pure Java?!!
>>>
>>> The general intent was to get it out as soon as it is in reasonable
>>> form, probably in an alpha release.
>>> These projects are probably the only ones any more that even call things
>>> "alpha." It seems that what used to be alpha is now called beta and what
>>> used to be beta is now FCS/GA.
>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>> Any information you can provide will be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Norman Barker
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Brian Burkhalter
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For those of you who were not there - and that is nearly everyone -
>>>>> the
>>>>> JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D / JAI BOF session on
>>>>> Tuesday
>>>>> May 6 are available here:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation
>>>>>
>>>>> Any comments are of course welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>>> ^..^< >^..^<
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Brian Burkhalter
>>>>> Java Imaging and Video
>>>>> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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> Can you let us on the list know a bit more detail
> about the jpip client such as;
>
> 1) who is writing it :-)

U of Arizona as I am sure you know and myself.

> 2) is it pure java, if not which library (kakadu,
> openjpeg, jasper)

USDA certfied pure Java with no additives or preservatives.

> 3) is it for geospatial or medical

It is application domain-agnostic.

> I for one, subject to company approval, am interested
> in helping with
> this (certainly at the least I can test it against
> our servers and a
> wide variety of image data).

Testing help would be appreciated when we get to that point.

Thanks for the offer.

Brian

> I have already written
> a kakadu imageio
> plugin, but we can't release this because of the
> kakadu license where
> you can't release a library (which allows others to
> develop) unless
> they also have a kakadu license (at least that is my
> interpretation).
>
> Full disclosure, I work for ITT VIS, see
> http://iasdemo.ittvis.com .
>
> Norman
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Brian Burkhalter
> wrote:
> > Note that I was not referring to anything
> specifically and in particular not
> > to Java, of course, but just making a general
> observation. ;-)
> >
> > On May 15, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
> >
> >> "It seems that what used to be alpha is now called
> beta and what used to
> >> be beta is now FCS/GA."
> >>
> >> No crap!!!
> >>
> >> Brian Burkhalter wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On May 15, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Norman Barker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Brian,
> >>>>
> >>>> slides look good, I see the mention of a jpip
> client (again) :-)
> >>>
> >>> Yeah the effort (obviously) stalled for a while.
> >>>>
> >>>> Can I ask how whether it will be possible to
> evaluate this plugin
> >>>> before the main release, I can certainly provide
> you with some testing
> >>>> effort. Is this plugin pure Java?!!
> >>>
> >>> The general intent was to get it out as soon as
> it is in reasonable
> >>> form, probably in an alpha release.
> >>> These projects are probably the only ones any
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Norman Barker

Hi Brian,

as you know we (ITT VIS) have already written a jpip plugin behind
imageio using kakadu, and we also have a pure java version behind
imageio in development which will use the same interface.

ITT VIS / SSD (and before that we were part of kodak imaging) have a
long history with jpip and jpeg2000 and we would like to help - we
certainly don't believe in proprietary standards and without
publishing our changes to imageio we aren't being interoperable.

Do you have a wiki page anywhere where I can create you sequence
diagrams, and interface diagrams for imageio jpip plugin? We had to
make some enhancements to imageio (such as J2KReadParam), and I would
like to discuss more how to use IIOMetadata for the different
geospatial and medical domains (so gmljp2 and dicom).

I have cleared this with my boss so no problems with the design ip, as
I mentioned before our imageio plugin using kakadu has to be closed
source because of the kakadu licensing.

Our server product is a j2ee jpip server supporting ssl,
authentication, clustering, metadata insertion etc. and we would like
the java imageio client plugins to be architected in a way to make
best use of these features.

Many thanks, and apologies for the misunderstanding I wasn't
intentionally asking leading questions.

Norman

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:58 PM, wrote:
>> Can you let us on the list know a bit more detail
>> about the jpip client such as;
>>
>> 1) who is writing it :-)
>
> U of Arizona as I am sure you know and myself.
>
>> 2) is it pure java, if not which library (kakadu,
>> openjpeg, jasper)
>
> USDA certfied pure Java with no additives or preservatives.
>
>> 3) is it for geospatial or medical
>
> It is application domain-agnostic.
>
>> I for one, subject to company approval, am interested
>> in helping with
>> this (certainly at the least I can test it against
>> our servers and a
>> wide variety of image data).
>
> Testing help would be appreciated when we get to that point.
>
> Thanks for the offer.
>
> Brian
>
>> I have already written
>> a kakadu imageio
>> plugin, but we can't release this because of the
>> kakadu license where
>> you can't release a library (which allows others to
>> develop) unless
>> they also have a kakadu license (at least that is my
>> interpretation).
>>
>> Full disclosure, I work for ITT VIS, see
>> http://iasdemo.ittvis.com .
>>
>> Norman
>>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Brian Burkhalter
>> wrote:
>> > Note that I was not referring to anything
>> specifically and in particular not
>> > to Java, of course, but just making a general
>> observation. ;-)
>> >
>> > On May 15, 2008, at 5:09 PM, Ken Warner wrote:
>> >
>> >> "It seems that what used to be alpha is now called
>> beta and what used to
>> >> be beta is now FCS/GA."
>> >>
>> >> No crap!!!
>> >>
>> >> Brian Burkhalter wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On May 15, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Norman Barker wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Brian,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> slides look good, I see the mention of a jpip
>> client (again) :-)
>> >>>
>> >>> Yeah the effort (obviously) stalled for a while.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Can I ask how whether it will be possible to
>> evaluate this plugin
>> >>>> before the main release, I can certainly provide
>> you with some testing
>> >>>> effort. Is this plugin pure Java?!!
>> >>>
>> >>> The general intent was to get it out as soon as
>> it is in reasonable
>> >>> form, probably in an alpha release.
>> >>> These projects are probably the only ones any
>> more that even call things
>> >>> "alpha." It seems that what used to be alpha is
>> now called beta and what
>> >>> used to be beta is now FCS/GA.
>> >>> Brian
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Any information you can provide will be
>> appreciated.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> thanks,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Norman Barker
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 3:56 PM, Brian
>> Burkhalter
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> For those of you who were not there - and that
>> is nearly everyone -
>> >>>>> the
>> >>>>> JAI-specific slides presented at the Java 2D /
>> JAI BOF session on
>> >>>>> Tuesday
>> >>>>> May 6 are available here:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> https://jai.dev.java.net/#Documentation
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any comments are of course welcome.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> ^..^< >^..^<
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Brian Burkhalter
>> >>>>> Java Imaging and Video
>> >>>>> Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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David Clunie

Hi Norman

Norman Barker wrote:

> Do you have a wiki page anywhere where I can create you sequence
> diagrams, and interface diagrams for imageio jpip plugin? We had to
> make some enhancements to imageio (such as J2KReadParam), and I would
> like to discuss more how to use IIOMetadata for the different
> geospatial and medical domains (so gmljp2 and dicom).

If you are going to define any IIOMetadata for DICOM images, run
it by me first ... we would probably want to harmonize if with
the conventions for the DICOM WG 23 native metadata API, which
is being designed to be very IIOMetadata-like.

This is presumably independent of any JPIP stuff.

David

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