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I have a J2ME midlet which I have developed against CLDC 1.1 & MIDP 2.0. I would like to be able to run this midlet on Palm OS.

All sources point to IBM J9 jvm as the solution, but I cannot find anywhere to download the jvm or a toolkit to convert the jad/jar files into prc. All my Google searches point to the Palm Developer Network website, but they are no longer offering the download. I'm assuming there was a free toolkit of some kind offered by PDN.

Can someone offer up a URL for downloading one of these toolkits?

Thanks!
Kevin

fyi,
I have tried using Sun's midp4palm, but this is only CLDC 1.0 & MIDP 1.0.

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Daniel Rocha

eSWT is being shipped with Nokia S60 3rd. Edition FP2 devices, that's a
solution with any hiccups or "buts".

http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20
08/04/11/hotjava

http://blogs.s60.com/java/S60_eSWT_article.pdf

Daniel

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Subject: Re: LTWUI toolkit

On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:

Actually, when you click on a text input control, it switches to
the standard input control (TextField) so all advantages of predictive
input, input masks, etc. are still there. Similar approach to GMail for
JME.

Interrupting the flow and theme of the UI?

When will Java ME enable a better solution?

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On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM, Daniel Rocha wrote:

> Actually, when you click on a text input control, it switches to the
> standard input control (TextField) so all advantages of predictive input,
> input masks, etc. are still there. Similar approach to GMail for JME.
>
>

Interrupting the flow and theme of the UI?

When will Java ME enable a better solution?

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Roger Riggs

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Daniel Rocha

>> Hmm, that's not what the presenters said at the talk (Lightweight UI
Toolkit For The Java(tm) ME Platform- Making Compelling Java ME UI's
Easy) when I asked.

That's weird then! :) I have tested the toolkit demo on many Nokia
devices and they do behave like I described below. You can download the
demo from LWTUI site, go to Dialogs, and then mess with some of the
parameters presented in the text input components. When you click to
edit they immediately switch to a standard TextBox so the predictive
input can be used.

There might be some other components that don't behave this way though;
I'm still to investigate more.

My policy for marriage is to have the last word on every discussion.
"Yes, m'am".

Daniel

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[mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] On Behalf Of ext Ken Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:12 PM
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: Re: LTWUI toolkit

Hmm, that's not what the presenters said at the talk (Lightweight UI
Toolkit For The Java(tm) ME Platform- Making Compelling Java ME UI's
Easy) when I asked. However, I'm always willing to be corrected
otherwise my marriage would go nowhere.... ;->

If Input Method Editors (Foreign language input, etc.) work then that's
great.

Cheers,

/**
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Lab
@see http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab
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input control, it switches to the standard input control (TextFie

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Date:
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Subject:
Re: LTWUI toolkit
________________________________

Actually, when you click on a text input control, it switches to the
standard input control (TextField) so all advantages of predictive
input, input masks, etc. are still there. Similar approach to GMail for
JME.

[]s
Daniel

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[mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] On Behalf Of ext Ken Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:24 PM
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: Re: LTWUI toolkit

As I brought up after the presentation at JavaOne, there is a serious
problem with input using this approach. The Game Canvas was not designed
to be the input mechanism of choice for text and thus a lot of
implementations to not support IMEs there.

I think it looks good for display purposes.

/**
@author Ken Walker, J9 Embedded Java Class Library Manager, IBM Ottawa
Lab
@see http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab

@return ken_walker@ca.ibm.com
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Roger Brinkley ---05/15/2008 01:21:39 PM---Also a podcast today on the
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Date:
05/15/2008 01:21 PM

Subject:
Re: LTWUI toolkit
________________________________

Also a podcast today on the Mobile & Embedded community page.
http://mobileandembedded.org

binky

Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
> http://lwuit.dev.java.net . It's really
great looking, easy to program
> with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93,
E61i,
> 6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.
>
> There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
>
http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20
0>
> 08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel Rocha
> Forum Nokia
>
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Ian Strain

Daniel, the behavior you described also happens on the Sony Ericsson
devices.

As for marraige, its usually "as you wish"

Daniel Rocha wrote:
> >> Hmm, that's not what the presenters said at the talk (Lightweight UI
> Toolkit For The Java^(TM) ME Platform- Making Compelling Java ME UI's
> Easy) when I asked.
>
> That's weird then! :) I have tested the toolkit demo on many Nokia
> devices and they do behave like I described below. You can download
> the demo from LWTUI site, go to Dialogs, and then mess with some of
> the parameters presented in the text input components. When you click
> to edit they immediately switch to a standard TextBox so the
> predictive input can be used.
>
> There might be some other components that don't behave this way
> though; I'm still to investigate more.
>
> My policy for marriage is to have the last word on every discussion.
> "Yes, m'am".
>
> Daniel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* A mailing list for KVM discussion
> [mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] *On Behalf Of *ext Ken Walker
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:12 PM
> *To:* KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
> *Subject:* Re: LTWUI toolkit
>
> Hmm, that's not what the presenters said at the talk (Lightweight UI
> Toolkit For The Java^(TM) ME Platform- Making Compelling Java ME UI's
> Easy) when I asked. However, I'm always willing to be corrected
> otherwise my marriage would go nowhere.... ;->
>
> If Input Method Editors (Foreign language input, etc.) work then
> that's great.
>
> Cheers,
>
> /**
> @author Ken Walker, J9 Embedded Java Class Library Manager, IBM Ottawa Lab
> @see http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab
> @return ken_walker@ca.ibm.com
> */
>
>
> Inactive hide details for Daniel Rocha ---05/15/2008 03:03:45
> PM---Actually, when you click on a text input control, it
> switcheDaniel Rocha ---05/15/2008 03:03:45 PM---Actually, when you
> click on a text input control, it switches to the standard input
> control (TextFie
>
>
> From:
> Daniel Rocha
>
> To:
> KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
>
> Date:
> 05/15/2008 03:03 PM
>
> Subject:
> Re: LTWUI toolkit
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Actually, when you click on a text input control, it switches to the
> standard input control (TextField) so all advantages of predictive
> input, input masks, etc. are still there. Similar approach to GMail
> for JME.
>
> []s
> Daniel
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* A mailing list for KVM discussion
> [mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] *On Behalf Of *ext Ken Walker*
> Sent:* Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:24 PM*
> To:* KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM*
> Subject:* Re: LTWUI toolkit
>
> As I brought up after the presentation at JavaOne, there is a serious
> problem with input using this approach. The Game Canvas was not
> designed to be the input mechanism of choice for text and thus a lot
> of implementations to not support IMEs there.
>
> I think it looks good for display purposes.
>
> /**
> @author Ken Walker, J9 Embedded Java Class Library Manager, IBM Ottawa Lab
> @see _http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab_
> @return ken_walker@ca.ibm.com
> */
>
>
> Roger Brinkley ---05/15/2008 01:21:39 PM---Also a podcast today on the
> Mobile & Embedded community page.
>
> From:
> Roger Brinkley
>
> To:
> KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
>
> Date:
> 05/15/2008 01:21 PM
>
> Subject:
> Re: LTWUI toolkit
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> Also a podcast today on the Mobile & Embedded community page. _
> __http://mobileandembedded.org_
>
> binky
>
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
> > _http://lwuit.dev.java.net_ . It's
> really great looking, easy to program
> > with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93, E61i,
> > 6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.
> >
> > There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
> >
> _http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20_
> > 08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Daniel Rocha
> > Forum Nokia
> >
> >
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Yaniv Vakrat

Please take a look on Shai's blog (the creator of the LWUIT) for his
comments about the text input
http://www.jroller.com/vprise/entry/text_input_in_lwuit_now

Regards

P.S the name is LWUIT- Lightweight UI Toolkit

Ian Strain wrote:
> Daniel, the behavior you described also happens on the Sony Ericsson
> devices.
>
> As for marraige, its usually "as you wish"
>
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
>> >> Hmm, that's not what the presenters said at the talk (Lightweight
>> UI Toolkit For The Java^(TM) ME Platform- Making Compelling Java ME
>> UI's Easy) when I asked.
>>
>> That's weird then! :) I have tested the toolkit demo on many Nokia
>> devices and they do behave like I described below. You can download
>> the demo from LWTUI site, go to Dialogs, and then mess with some of
>> the parameters presented in the text input components. When you click
>> to edit they immediately switch to a standard TextBox so the
>> predictive input can be used.
>>
>> There might be some other components that don't behave this way
>> though; I'm still to investigate more.
>>
>> My policy for marriage is to have the last word on every discussion.
>> "Yes, m'am".
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* A mailing list for KVM discussion
>> [mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] *On Behalf Of *ext Ken Walker
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 15, 2008 5:12 PM
>> *To:* KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
>> *Subject:* Re: LTWUI toolkit
>>
>> Hmm, that's not what the presenters said at the talk (Lightweight UI
>> Toolkit For The Java^(TM) ME Platform- Making Compelling Java ME UI's
>> Easy) when I asked. However, I'm always willing to be corrected
>> otherwise my marriage would go nowhere.... ;->
>>
>> If Input Method Editors (Foreign language input, etc.) work then
>> that's great.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> /**
>> @author Ken Walker, J9 Embedded Java Class Library Manager, IBM
>> Ottawa Lab
>> @see http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab
>> @return ken_walker@ca.ibm.com
>> */
>>
>>
>> Inactive hide details for Daniel Rocha ---05/15/2008 03:03:45
>> PM---Actually, when you click on a text input control, it
>> switcheDaniel Rocha ---05/15/2008 03:03:45 PM---Actually, when you
>> click on a text input control, it switches to the standard input
>> control (TextFie
>>
>>
>> From:
>> Daniel Rocha
>>
>> To:
>> KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
>>
>> Date:
>> 05/15/2008 03:03 PM
>>
>> Subject:
>> Re: LTWUI toolkit
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Actually, when you click on a text input control, it switches to the
>> standard input control (TextField) so all advantages of predictive
>> input, input masks, etc. are still there. Similar approach to GMail
>> for JME.
>>
>> []s
>> Daniel
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* A mailing list for KVM discussion
>> [mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] *On Behalf Of *ext Ken Walker*
>> Sent:* Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:24 PM*
>> To:* KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM*
>> Subject:* Re: LTWUI toolkit
>>
>> As I brought up after the presentation at JavaOne, there is a serious
>> problem with input using this approach. The Game Canvas was not
>> designed to be the input mechanism of choice for text and thus a lot
>> of implementations to not support IMEs there.
>>
>> I think it looks good for display purposes.
>>
>> /**
>> @author Ken Walker, J9 Embedded Java Class Library Manager, IBM
>> Ottawa Lab
>> @see _http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab_
>> @return ken_walker@ca.ibm.com
>> */
>>
>>
>> Roger Brinkley ---05/15/2008 01:21:39 PM---Also a podcast today on
>> the Mobile & Embedded community page.
>>
>> From:
>> Roger Brinkley
>>
>> To:
>> KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
>>
>> Date:
>> 05/15/2008 01:21 PM
>>
>> Subject:
>> Re: LTWUI toolkit
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> Also a podcast today on the Mobile & Embedded community page. _
>> __http://mobileandembedded.org_
>>
>> binky
>>
>> Daniel Rocha wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
>> > _http://lwuit.dev.java.net_ . It's
>> really great looking, easy to program
>> > with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93, E61i,
>> > 6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.
>> >
>> > There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
>> >
>> _http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20_
>> > 08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Daniel Rocha
>> > Forum Nokia
>> >
>> >
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Daniel Rocha

Actually, when you click on a text input control, it switches to the
standard input control (TextField) so all advantages of predictive
input, input masks, etc. are still there. Similar approach to GMail for
JME.

[]s
Daniel

________________________________

From: A mailing list for KVM discussion
[mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] On Behalf Of ext Ken Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:24 PM
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: Re: LTWUI toolkit

As I brought up after the presentation at JavaOne, there is a serious
problem with input using this approach. The Game Canvas was not designed
to be the input mechanism of choice for text and thus a lot of
implementations to not support IMEs there.

I think it looks good for display purposes.

/**
@author Ken Walker, J9 Embedded Java Class Library Manager, IBM Ottawa
Lab
@see http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab
@return ken_walker@ca.ibm.com
*/

Inactive hide details for Roger Brinkley ---05/15/2008 01:21:39
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Brinkley ---05/15/2008 01:21:39 PM---Also a podcast today on the Mobile
& Embedded community page.

From:
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To:
KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM

Date:
05/15/2008 01:21 PM

Subject:
Re: LTWUI toolkit
________________________________

Also a podcast today on the Mobile & Embedded community page.
http://mobileandembedded.org

binky

Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
> http://lwuit.dev.java.net. It's really great looking, easy to program
> with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93,
E61i,
> 6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.
>
> There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
>
http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20
> 08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel Rocha
> Forum Nokia
>
>
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Ken Walker

Hmm, that's not what the presenters said at the talk (Lightweight UI
Toolkit For The Java? ME Platform- Making Compelling Java ME UI's Easy)
when I asked. However, I'm always willing to be corrected otherwise my
marriage would go nowhere.... ;->

If Input Method Editors (Foreign language input, etc.) work then that's
great.

Cheers,

/**
@author Ken Walker, J9 Embedded Java Class Library Manager, IBM Ottawa Lab
@see http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab
@return ken_walker@ca.ibm.com
*/

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Actually, when you click on a text input control, it switches to the
standard input control (TextField) so all advantages of predictive input,
input masks, etc. are still there. Similar approach to GMail for JME.

[]s
Daniel

From: A mailing list for KVM discussion [mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM]
On Behalf Of ext Ken Walker
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 2:24 PM
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: Re: LTWUI toolkit

As I brought up after the presentation at JavaOne, there is a serious
problem with input using this approach. The Game Canvas was not designed to
be the input mechanism of choice for text and thus a lot of implementations
to not support IMEs there.

I think it looks good for display purposes.

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Date: 05/15/2008 01:21 PM

Subject: Re: LTWUI toolkit

Also a podcast today on the Mobile & Embedded community page.
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binky

Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
> http://lwuit.dev.java.net. It's really great looking, easy to program
> with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93, E61i,
> 6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.
>
> There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
> http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20
> 08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel Rocha
> Forum Nokia
>
>
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Daniel Rocha

Hi all,

I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
http://lwuit.dev.java.net. It's really great looking, easy to program
with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93, E61i,
6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.

There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20
08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit

Cheers,
Daniel Rocha
Forum Nokia

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binky

Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
> http://lwuit.dev.java.net. It's really great looking, easy to program
> with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93, E61i,
> 6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.
>
> There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
> http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20
> 08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel Rocha
> Forum Nokia
>
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As I brought up after the presentation at JavaOne, there is a serious
problem with input using this approach. The Game Canvas was not designed
to be the input mechanism of choice for text and thus a lot of
implementations to not support IMEs there.

I think it looks good for display purposes.

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@see http://www.ibm.com/software/ca/en/ottawalab
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Also a podcast today on the Mobile & Embedded community page.
http://mobileandembedded.org

binky

Daniel Rocha wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have covered a bit of the LWTUI toolkit created by some folks at
> http://lwuit.dev.java.net. It's really great looking, easy to program
> with and I have run it on many different devices (Nokia N95, N93, E61i,
> 6131 - Series 40) and it works flawlessly in all of them.
>
> There's a video of the toolkit demo running at my Forum Nokia Blog:
> http://blogs.forum.nokia.com/blog/daniel-rochas-forum-nokia-blog/eswt/20
> 08/05/14/lwtui_toolkit
>
> Cheers,
> Daniel Rocha
> Forum Nokia
>
>
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Thanks for the reply Terrence.

I'm using a palm device which does not include a browser or outside connectivity so I needed the toolkit which was able to convert the jad/jar files into prc, so I could then add the files using my hotsync cradle.

As a follow-up, I've found the files here:
http://www.pdaexpert.net/conteudo/downloads/j2me/

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> There is no need to convert the jad/jar into a prc.
> The whole point of a Java ME stack such as J9 is to
> execute the jar file directly (the Java byte codes).
>
> Install the J9 on your Palm, start it, and choose the
> "Install MIDlet" from the menu (at least, that's how
> I remember it). It will ask you for the URL of the
> jad file, download the jar, and then you can run the
> MIDlet from within J9.
>
> -- Terrence

A little further detail on how this works for local files...

I created a basic HelloWorld .jad and .jar file. It runs fine on the WTK.

I copied the .jad and .jar files manually to my Palm device (to a memory card and to the device itself), but I do not see the application on the device.

Is there any way to specific the .jad file for a local file on the Palm device? On a Memory Card? I tried leaving off the http:// on the URL but this did not seem to work.

Any ideas? Thanks ahead of time.

Eric

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The last time I used J9 (probably about 2 years ago on a iPaq), I found there was no way to install it directly off the device's file system.

I had to always install midlet OTA, so would publish it in some accessible webspace, and specify the URL to point to the .jad and .jar

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It's little things like this that I would like to see development of a Palm based J2ME/JavaME based product as part of the phoneME Feature/Advanced initiatives.

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I may be starting to go down an off topic road but...Along the Palm J2ME topic, I was looking through some of the phoneME code and notice there appear to be some ARM based code included. Would this be usable in some way to develope a Palm based phoneME based solution?

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Roger is currently extremely busy with JavaOne so I'll answer.

You don't get "feedback" on the SCA. You submit it and then usually within a week or so you show up on the SCA signatories list:

https://sca.dev.java.net/CA_signatories.htm

You can start submitting contributions at any time, they will just not be processed until the SCA has been received.

Hope that helps,

-- Terrence

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Coming soon (hopefully)...

https://javame4palm.dev.java.net/

All help welcome...

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I saw the proposal this morning. We'll probably deny the project as it should be a port within the phoneme project. More details forthcoming after JavaOne which is occupying our time full time for the rest of the week.

Binky

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Not trying to create any flames here and I realize that everyone is busy, but a comment like the last just 'kills' enthusiasm!

I assume, that rather than reject the project, what you meant to say was that for the project to get your blessing, it needs to be something like "javame4palm.phoneme.dev.java.net"

Is that correct?

I for one would be extremely interested in seeing a PhoneMe port for the Palm devices .

Best Regards.

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pcarew,

Sorry for the way Roger's comment sounded ... we encourage the creation of a Palm port of phoneME but it should be as a platform subproject of the phoneME project (since it relies on and extends the phoneME code).. As such, a standalone project is discouraged but a subproject under phoneME is certainly welcome. Roger will get back to you on this.

-- Terrence

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There has been discussion about this in this forum. Yes, the ARM support is there but of course the Garnet OS support needs to be done. Someone with Palm expertize should be able to get the basics working fairly quickly. The real work is in all the optional JSRs without with the stack really is incomplete.

It would be great to see this happen as a community project.

-- Terrence

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Where is the best place start a "community project" like this?

I'm guessing:
(1) http://www.java.net/request_project.csp
(2) http://community.java.net/help_wanted/
(3) http://community.java.net/projects/publicize.csp

Or would this in some way be part of existing Phone ME (Feature / Advance) subprojects of some type?

Roger Brinkley

Within the phoneme project and using this forum.

Binky

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I did a quick search and found nothing with Palm or Garnet.

As I am not directly associated with Palm or Access...are there any legal concerns that have to be addressed before doing so?

I am in the process of working on the SCA..

I see you are a Governing Board member...so are you one of the folks that will approve/reject the project?

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> I am in the process of working on the SCA..

How long does it usually take to get feedback when you submit a SCA via email?

Eric

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Sorry for the slow reply.

There is no need to convert the jad/jar into a prc. The whole point of a Java ME stack such as J9 is to execute the jar file directly (the Java byte codes).

Install the J9 on your Palm, start it, and choose the "Install MIDlet" from the menu (at least, that's how I remember it). It will ask you for the URL of the jad file, download the jar, and then you can run the MIDlet from within J9.

Hope this helps,

-- Terrence

Ken Walker

I also think that there was some integration with the web browser if you
clicked on a properly decorated JAD file it should install it.

The tools on the PalmSource site I cannot seem to find anymore.

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Sorry for the slow reply.

There is no need to convert the jad/jar into a prc. The whole point of a
Java ME stack such as J9 is to execute the jar file directly (the Java byte
codes).

Install the J9 on your Palm, start it, and choose the "Install MIDlet" from
the menu (at least, that's how I remember it). It will ask you for the URL
of the jad file, download the jar, and then you can run the MIDlet from
within J9.

Hope this helps,

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