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When will PluginNG be included in the Java SE

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demonduck
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I'm new to this forum so forgive me if I ask an often answered question. But when will the average person, who simply updates his Java JRE, get the new plugin?

I hang with some photographers who make 360 spherical panoramas sometimes called immersive VR. And the currently preferred deployment platform is Flash. I think Flash sucks and I know that the new plugin will make Java the preferred deployment platform.

I've been taking heat from my panographer friends and would like to be able to tell them that the new plugin will soon solve many of their deployment problems. What should I tell them?

DemonDuck

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kbr
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I can't answer the question of when auto-update will push 6u10. Our marketing team has been asked to follow up to your question.

Please point your friends to the 6u10 early access builds at http://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html . The installation experience is smooth and the new plug-in is enabled by default. We are working on publishing some cool demos of the new plug-in. They will be out in a few days.

demonduck
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I'm just nervous about pre-release versions of anything. And even more nervous about telling people who are less technical than I am to try your pre-release versions of Java.

First of all, they are really skeptical of Java because of the memory problems and plugin problems and installation difficulties that have existed in the past and are still wide spread. I try my best as an amateur Java advocate to at least stay aware of the ongoing improvements in the JRE. If anyone of them has a bad experience with your pre-release versions, then all of the people I try to influence will be gun shy in the future.

So I cannot encourage anyone to try the pre-release versions of Java.

I will try it myself but I run on Windows 2000 and Firefox 2 and you have clearly stated that neither the hardware acceleration or any of the new applet tag features are supported by that combination.

Which begs the question, WHY NOT????

So right now, I just would like to be kept abreast of your release plans.

DemonDuck

kbr
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I can only speak for the new Java Plug-In. As described in the FAQ (https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNfaq.html#NewPlugIn), in the new plug-in one of the significant things we changed was the interface we use to talk to the web browser in Firefox. It was technically impossible to continue to use the old interface and implement the new plug-in's architecture. This conversion (which Mozilla wanted us to do very badly as well, as it will allow them to remove a staggering amount of unmaintained code from the browser) required a large number of changes and bug fixes in the browser. Sun and Mozilla were originally considering backporting these changes to the Firefox 2 tree, but at one point the sheer number of changes simply made it impractical to do so. Additionally, the final release of Firefox 3 is coming up soon, and if I may say so it looks like a really solid product. This is why the new plug-in only runs in Firefox 3.

demonduck
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> I can only speak for the new Java Plug-In. As
> described in the FAQ
> (https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNfaq.html#NewPlugIn), in
> the new plug-in one of the significant things we
> changed was the interface we use to talk to the web
> browser in Firefox. [stuff deleted]

Well, if you put it that way :-)

No -- really -- that sounds reasonable to me. I've had my share of trouble with browser/plugin communication. Anything that improves that is a blessing.

You have my permission to continue :-)