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tvalleau
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Howdy. I'm a developer (read: computer programmer and multimedia producer) and am wondering (before I spend a bunch of $$ and several weeks of my life) if the production community wants/needs/ or already has, a drag n drop GUI for creating interactive menus and games... Does such a beast exist yet? If not, I'll write it and offer it for sale.

Example: open window; drag in a background; drag in a menu; position the elements; hit the "make it" button - out comes nice BD-J code.

Yes? No?

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tvalleau
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Thanks, Bill.... -That's- the kind of cooperation I was hoping to find; a refreshing change from the Licensing body!

I'll contact you off list.

Regards

Tracy

Bill Foote

bd-j-dev@mobileandembedded.org wrote:
> Howdy. I'm a developer (read: computer programmer and multimedia producer) and am wondering (before I spend a bunch of $$ and several weeks of my life) if the production community wants/needs/ or already has, a drag n drop GUI for creating interactive menus and games... Does such a beast exist yet? If not, I'll write it and offer it for sale.
>
> Example: open window; drag in a background; drag in a menu; position the elements; hit the "make it" button - out comes nice BD-J code.
>
> Yes? No?

Hi Tvalleau,

There are a couple of commercial products out there that do this
sort of thing.

We have plans to eventually add a GRIN target to the visual design
tool being created for Java FX/Script. I hope we'll have something
to show on this by JavaOne; we'll see how it goes.

I think the guys in Prague doing Sun's visual design tool might be
doing it in some kind of open-source way. Whether that's so or not,
if you're interested in working with getting their tool to work
for BD-J, I'd be more than eager to do anything I can to make
that collaboration work. Any interest in presenting on this topic
at JavaOne? Seriously, we're totally open to that sort of collaboration,
and that would help the BD-J community a lot. The guys in Prague would
love it, too -- they like BD-J, but they do have other priorities too.

My thought is that what we really want is for their visual design tool
to have a "plug-in" architecture that lets you customize it with any
pallette of effects. In that way, one way of doing a BD-J design tool
is a GRIN plug-in for this visual design tool. That way, we'd benefit
from all the other stuff they're doing, like importing files from Adobe
tools and such.

If you want to go in a direction of making the GRIN visual design tool,
Sun would be hunky-dory with that. We're already doing that model with
the GRIN stuff and folks like Javelin. What we get out of the deal is
real-world requirement and inputs that make our open source offerings
better. What the community gets is a supported professional product
with someone who stands behind it. GrinXML is a great example of this
sort of collaboration.

If any of this sounds interesting, drop me a line and we'll see what
we can work out. bill dot foote at sun dot com.

Cheers,

Bill

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Bill Foote

Bill Foote wrote:

> If you want to go in a direction of making the GRIN visual design tool,
> Sun would be hunky-dory with that.

Incomplete sentence: What I mean is that if you want to make this
sort of plug-in and sell it as a product, that would be fine by us.
In fact, I'd be happy to buy a copy for myself!
We very much support a mix of free and commercial products as part
of the ecosystem.

Bill

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tvalleau
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Thanks, Denny. It looks like you're way ahead of me on this, if I'm properly reading what I've found on your site. Probably just as well, since I also wrote to the BDA License office, and a package will cost me $15K. That's well beyond what I'm willing to spend "on spec."

I may see how far I can take it with GRIN... or muck about with it, but this was to be an income-generating enterprise for me, not a hobby, so ...

Good luck with your product(s.)

jimmorrison
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Hi Denny B. if we become Beta Testers do we still have to pay the 99$ a month fee ? Or do we get a special price being a Beta Tester /

dbreitenfeld
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Hi Jim,

I can speak more off line about our Beta testing program in greater detail if you want to email me : dbreitenfeld [at] netblender dot com. To give you the quick answer: all participants in the [i]current[/i] Beta program do not have to pay for the DoStudio.

Hope that helps.

Denny B.

[i]NetBlender DoStudio MX Team - NDS - http://dostudio.netblender.com[/i]

dbreitenfeld
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Hi Tvalleau,

That sounds like a great idea.. You also might be interested in our BD-J beta program and/or our Blend/In program. The BD-J Beta sign up can be found here: http://dostudio.netblender.com/bdjbeta.asp information about writing plug ins can be found here: http://dostudio.netblender.com/blendin.asp

Denny B.

[i]NetBlender DoStudio MX Team - NDS - http://dostudio.netblender.com[/i]