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Swing (JSR 209) questions

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dave_w
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I see that swing source code is not available for phoneME, however, it is available for OpenJDK. How difficult would it be to port the OpenJDK swing code to phoneME? Is there a lot of dependencies? Is it worth pursuing or will the JSR 209 code be open-sourced for phoneME soon?

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Roger Brinkley

With Hinkmonds help we should be able to put the poll up on the phoneme
advanced forum.

Binky

Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded wrote:
> Dave,
>
> May I suggest you open a poll in the forums on 209? Getting a
> good reading on the level of interest and maybe some concrete
> uses and app ideas would be great material to make a case.
>
> -- Terrence
>
> Hinkmond Wong wrote:
>> phonemeadvanced@mobileandembedded.org wrote:
>> > I see that swing source code is not available for phoneME, however,
>> > it is available for OpenJDK. How difficult would it be to port the
>> > OpenJDK swing code to phoneME? Is there a lot of dependencies? Is
>> > it worth pursuing or will the JSR 209 code be open-sourced for
>> > phoneME soon?
>>
>> Hi Dave,
>>
>> It would be very difficult. Swing is dependent on native code like
>> MediaLib and graphics rendering code. So, it is not just a matter of
>> javac compiling a bunch of Java code, but instead it would be a lot
>> of porting work to port from Windows/x86 or Linux/Solaris/x86 of
>> OpenJDK to a more typical platform for phoneME, like Linux/ARM/Qt.
>>
>> I wouldn't recommend pursuing that. JSR 209 is not planned to be
>> open-sourced any time soon, but if enough people request it, maybe
>> our marketing types at Sun would figure it's worth the resources we
>> would have to spend to open source it.
>>
>>
>> Hinkmond
>>
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Hinkmond Wong

Roger Brinkley wrote:
> With Hinkmonds help we should be able to put the poll up on the
> phoneme advanced forum.

Poll available now at:

http://forums.java.net/jive/poll.jspa?pollID=5

Hinkmond

> Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded wrote:
>> Dave,
>>
>> May I suggest you open a poll in the forums on 209? Getting a
>> good reading on the level of interest and maybe some concrete
>> uses and app ideas would be great material to make a case.
>>
>> -- Terrence
>>
>> Hinkmond Wong wrote:
>>> phonemeadvanced@mobileandembedded.org wrote:
>>> > I see that swing source code is not available for phoneME, however,
>>> > it is available for OpenJDK. How difficult would it be to port the
>>> > OpenJDK swing code to phoneME? Is there a lot of dependencies? Is
>>> > it worth pursuing or will the JSR 209 code be open-sourced for
>>> > phoneME soon?
>>>
>>> Hi Dave,
>>>
>>> It would be very difficult. Swing is dependent on native code like
>>> MediaLib and graphics rendering code. So, it is not just a matter
>>> of javac compiling a bunch of Java code, but instead it would be a
>>> lot of porting work to port from Windows/x86 or Linux/Solaris/x86 of
>>> OpenJDK to a more typical platform for phoneME, like Linux/ARM/Qt.
>>>
>>> I wouldn't recommend pursuing that. JSR 209 is not planned to be
>>> open-sourced any time soon, but if enough people request it, maybe
>>> our marketing types at Sun would figure it's worth the resources we
>>> would have to spend to open source it.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hinkmond
>>>
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dave_w
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Thanks for the reply, Hinkmond. I think there is a desire for it, I've seen a few posts in this forum asking about it.

Hinkmond Wong

phonemeadvanced@mobileandembedded.org wrote:
> I see that swing source code is not available for phoneME, however,
> it is available for OpenJDK. How difficult would it be to port the
> OpenJDK swing code to phoneME? Is there a lot of dependencies? Is
> it worth pursuing or will the JSR 209 code be open-sourced for
> phoneME soon?

Hi Dave,

It would be very difficult. Swing is dependent on native code like
MediaLib and graphics rendering code. So, it is not just a matter of
javac compiling a bunch of Java code, but instead it would be a lot of
porting work to port from Windows/x86 or Linux/Solaris/x86 of OpenJDK to
a more typical platform for phoneME, like Linux/ARM/Qt.

I wouldn't recommend pursuing that. JSR 209 is not planned to be
open-sourced any time soon, but if enough people request it, maybe our
marketing types at Sun would figure it's worth the resources we would
have to spend to open source it.

Hinkmond

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Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded

Dave,

May I suggest you open a poll in the forums on 209? Getting a
good reading on the level of interest and maybe some concrete
uses and app ideas would be great material to make a case.

-- Terrence

Hinkmond Wong wrote:
> phonemeadvanced@mobileandembedded.org wrote:
> > I see that swing source code is not available for phoneME, however,
> > it is available for OpenJDK. How difficult would it be to port the
> > OpenJDK swing code to phoneME? Is there a lot of dependencies? Is
> > it worth pursuing or will the JSR 209 code be open-sourced for
> > phoneME soon?
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> It would be very difficult. Swing is dependent on native code like
> MediaLib and graphics rendering code. So, it is not just a matter of
> javac compiling a bunch of Java code, but instead it would be a lot of
> porting work to port from Windows/x86 or Linux/Solaris/x86 of OpenJDK to
> a more typical platform for phoneME, like Linux/ARM/Qt.
>
> I wouldn't recommend pursuing that. JSR 209 is not planned to be
> open-sourced any time soon, but if enough people request it, maybe our
> marketing types at Sun would figure it's worth the resources we would
> have to spend to open source it.
>
>
> Hinkmond
>
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dave_w
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I was thinking the same thing regarding starting a poll, but I don't see any obvious way to do so. Maybe Hinkmond can replace the anti-iPhone poll with a poll asking most desired JSR wanted.

Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded

Ah, yes, I think only project owners and moderators can
create polls right now ... Hinkmond?

-- Terrence

phonemeadvanced@mobileandembedded.org wrote:
> I was thinking the same thing regarding starting a poll, but I don't see any obvious way to do so. Maybe Hinkmond can replace the anti-iPhone poll with a poll asking most desired JSR wanted.
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Hinkmond Wong

Terrence Barr - Evangelist, Java Mobile & Embedded wrote:
> Ah, yes, I think only project owners and moderators can
> create polls right now ... Hinkmond?
>

Yes, I can do that. I'll go ahead and create a poll for AGUI JSR 209
then. I'll let everyone know when it's ready.

Hinkmond

> phonemeadvanced@mobileandembedded.org wrote:
>> I was thinking the same thing regarding starting a poll, but I don't
>> see any obvious way to do so. Maybe Hinkmond can replace the
>> anti-iPhone poll with a poll asking most desired JSR wanted.

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