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Anonymous

Hi,
I'd like to share with you my first experience with Java Verified Program.
You can find my post at: http://www.jroller.com/jeddi/date/20071012

I have also a question for you.
We'd like to test our jvp bundle on us-carrier branded devices, but as soon
as I've started with first two carriers it seems not working.
I've tried with Cingular Motorola V3xx and Sprint Motorola V3m.

Any hint about it? Do you know of any other jvp-certified application I can
use for testing the ability to install jvp apps on those devices?

Thanks in advance for your help

Regards,
Edoardo Schepis

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Hartti Suomela

Edoardo,

You do not tell what the problem is exactly with those handsets. My
guess however is that the variations in the security policies are to
blame. Java Verified signing places the applications to the trusted 3rd
party (identified 3rd party) domain (the same domain you get into with
Verisign or Thawte certificates) and both Sprint and AT&T have disabled
certain functionalities from that domain. You need to get the signing
from the carrier directly to be able to access many of the restricted
(read: more powerful) APIs

best regards
Hartti Suomela
Forum Nokia

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On 10/15/07, edoardo schepis wrote:
> Hi,
> I'd like to share with you my first experience with Java Verified
Program.
> You can find my post at:
> http://www.jroller.com/jeddi/date/20071012
>
> I have also a question for you.
> We'd like to test our jvp bundle on us-carrier branded devices, but as

> soon as I've started with first two carriers it seems not working.
> I've tried with Cingular Motorola V3xx and Sprint Motorola V3m.
>
> Any hint about it? Do you know of any other jvp-certified application
> I can use for testing the ability to install jvp apps on those
devices?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
> Regards,
> Edoardo Schepis
>

I thought it was the case that Motorola handsets required their own OEM
signature and Sprint handsets required their carrier signature -- though
both have programs for enabling handsets for developer testing.

Try at developer.motorola.com and developer.sprint.com if your question
is not answered here.

And let us know what you find. It would indeed be progress if
jvp-certified MIDlets could be installed on Motorola and Sprint
handsets.

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Joe Bowbeer

On 10/15/07, edoardo schepis wrote:
> Hi,
> I'd like to share with you my first experience with Java Verified Program.
> You can find my post at:
> http://www.jroller.com/jeddi/date/20071012
>
> I have also a question for you.
> We'd like to test our jvp bundle on us-carrier branded devices, but as soon
> as I've started with first two carriers it seems not working.
> I've tried with Cingular Motorola V3xx and Sprint Motorola V3m.
>
> Any hint about it? Do you know of any other jvp-certified application I can
> use for testing the ability to install jvp apps on those devices?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help
>
> Regards,
> Edoardo Schepis
>

I thought it was the case that Motorola handsets required their own
OEM signature and Sprint handsets required their carrier signature --
though both have programs for enabling handsets for developer testing.

Try at developer.motorola.com and developer.sprint.com if your
question is not answered here.

And let us know what you find. It would indeed be progress if
jvp-certified MIDlets could be installed on Motorola and Sprint
handsets.

--
Joe Bowbeer

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edoardo schepis

HI,
after further investigation here are the first results:
- Motorola (not carrier-branded) devices accept JVP application that are
installed in 3P trusted domain
- Cingular devices accept JVP and Verisign signed applications, but you need
to be careful with MIDlet-Permissions you require in Jad file. Those
permissions not allowed in 3P domain (like socket, PIM) will make the
installation fail
- Sprint, T-Mobile require both to be signed with their signatures,
therefore Verisign and JVP won't work. Sprint provides a procedure to unlock
the 3P CA on the phone through their website, but it is assumed for
developers only
- Verizon doesn't allow to install even the unstrusted ones

Regards,
Edoardo

On 10/28/07, Joe Bowbeer wrote:
>
> On 10/15/07, edoardo schepis wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'd like to share with you my first experience with Java Verified
> Program.
> > You can find my post at:
> > http://www.jroller.com/jeddi/date/20071012
> >
> > I have also a question for you.
> > We'd like to test our jvp bundle on us-carrier branded devices, but as
> soon
> > as I've started with first two carriers it seems not working.
> > I've tried with Cingular Motorola V3xx and Sprint Motorola V3m.
> >
> > Any hint about it? Do you know of any other jvp-certified application I
> can
> > use for testing the ability to install jvp apps on those devices?
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your help
> >
> > Regards,
> > Edoardo Schepis
> >
>
> I thought it was the case that Motorola handsets required their own
> OEM signature and Sprint handsets required their carrier signature --
> though both have programs for enabling handsets for developer testing.
>
> Try at developer.motorola.com and developer.sprint.com if your
> question is not answered here.
>
> And let us know what you find. It would indeed be progress if
> jvp-certified MIDlets could be installed on Motorola and Sprint
> handsets.
>
> --
> Joe Bowbeer
>
>
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captainfreedom
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Thanks, that's interesting info to know.
So, now that you have java certification, does your midlet work on restricted handsets?