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Anonymous

Hi all,

Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
available now for all community developers, free of charge.

Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
based on Symbian OS.

It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
hand at the moment.

Daniel
Forum Nokia

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Suchit Tatkare

Dear All,

I am tring to use RAD to check the log, when the application is running
on the device. But I could not see the o/p statements (written in
System.out.println()) on the log view.

What should I do to see the output on this screen.

Thanks and Regards,
Suchit

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 10:06 PM
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Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Hi Chris,

I had the same issue but then I configured the proxy server address and
port on Java Plug-in (Control Panel) and then the jnlp file worked with
Firefox.

[]s
Daniel

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Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

After having a go on it I've got to say this is very handy and works a
treat cheers! I couldn't get the jnlp file to run through firefox though
- so I did it through IE. Is there a standalone version of this?

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Daniel Rocha

Hi Chris,

I had the same issue but then I configured the proxy server address and
port on Java Plug-in (Control Panel) and then the jnlp file worked with
Firefox.

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Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

After having a go on it I've got to say this is very handy and works a
treat cheers! I couldn't get the jnlp file to run through firefox though
- so I did it through IE. Is there a standalone version of this?

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Chris B

I didn't need to do that, I just browsed for javaws.exe and it uses that as
default from now on. That may be a different issue.

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Hi Chris,

I had the same issue but then I configured the proxy server address and
port on Java Plug-in (Control Panel) and then the jnlp file worked with
Firefox.

[]s
Daniel

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Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

After having a go on it I've got to say this is very handy and works a
treat cheers! I couldn't get the jnlp file to run through firefox though
- so I did it through IE. Is there a standalone version of this?

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Hartti Suomela

The RDA service is available for S60 devices (currently S60 3rd Edition
and 3rd Edition Feature Pack 1 devices). There is not support for Nokia
Series 40 devices.

Hartti Suomela
Forum Nokia Americas

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Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

There is "Install Software..." from menu Tools (RDA launch tool). It's
my fault i've missed it the first time. This one allows you to select
jar and install it directly into phone.

Does anyone know, if this RDA service will support all of the devices,
or there are some kind of technical restrictions?

2007/4/11, Daniel Rocha :
> You can install your application by sending the JAD and JAR files to
> the same folder on the device, then clicking the .jad file; this will
> install your app. To install via OTA, you have to configure the WI-FI
> connection on the handset (explained in the User Guide), then fire up
> the browser and download the app from your site.

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Jim Walt

There is "Install Software..." from menu Tools (RDA launch tool). It's
my fault i've missed it the first time. This one allows you to select
jar and install it directly into phone.

Does anyone know, if this RDA service will support all of the devices,
or there are some kind of technical restrictions?

2007/4/11, Daniel Rocha :
> You can install your application by sending the JAD and JAR files to the
> same folder on the device, then clicking the .jad file; this will install
> your app. To install via OTA, you have to configure the WI-FI connection on
> the handset (explained in the User Guide), then fire up the browser and
> download the app from your site.

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Daniel Rocha

Hi all,

Thank you all for the feedback (both positive and negative) on the
service, I will report that to the RDA team so they can use this
valuable information to improve the service.

I will try to answer some of the questions or doubts raised here:

"well, i've tried it, it seems to be great service, but there are some
troubles:
- how to install my application, for e.g. install via OTA my j2me game?
- it's really a big problem to test real-time apps. response time is
very big, especially with slow internet channel"

You can install your application by sending the JAD and JAR files to the
same folder on the device, then clicking the .jad file; this will
install your app. To install via OTA, you have to configure the WI-FI
connection on the handset (explained in the User Guide), then fire up
the browser and download the app from your site.

"Well, tried it , and a little bit disapointed:

- no network access. Documentation says the wifi is available. Wifi does
not seems to provides any results! (either errors, or nothing happens)

- no GPS access

- very very slow feedback (especially compared to mobile complete
solution). It's not network dependent, for instance if I use logmein to
connect remotely to my pc, I have near real time feedback, while it took
several seconds for RDA"

GPS access is a problem because the devices are located indoor, so the
built-in GPS receiver is not able to gather data from satellites because
it has no clear view of the sky. However you can test LBS applications
by installing the SimPsyConfigurator, documented in the S60 SDK: it's a
sis file containing an application that installs itself as an LBS module
so you can at least emulate the functionality of your application, as
you'll get simulated data from this module. This is the same approach
used for testing LBS applications in devices with no embedded GPS
receiver (a.k.a all the others from Nokia) or Bluetooth GPS module (hw).

Feedback is slow, I agree with that, and reported it back to the RDA
team.

Network access didn't work for you? I was able to configure Wi-Fi and
browse the web at a fairly good speed, as I show here:
http://rawsocket.org/?p=371 . This was
probably some temporary problem with the network.

On-device debugging is a problem in this kind of service, as the current
ODD environment requires either a cable or Bluetooth connection. I don't
know whether it could be extended to some other connection type such as
TCP/IP sockets, but that would be nice.

Regards,
Daniel Rocha
Forum Nokia

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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:32 AM
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

well, i've tried it, it seems to be great service, but there are some
troubles:
- how to install my application, for e.g. install via OTA my j2me game?
- it's really a big problem to test real-time apps. response time is
very big, especially with slow internet channel

but it can be very good help for developers in nearest future...

2007/4/11, C. Enrique Ortiz :
> I haven't tried this yet, but this kind of service seems phenomenal; I
> will be trying it shortly...
>
> ceo
>
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> > available now for all community developers, free of charge.
> >
> > Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to
> > mobile devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device
> > pool connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in
> > order to remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a
> > device, the screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop
in real time.
> > In addition, the user can install applications on the device,
> > transfer files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables
> > developers to test their mobile applications and services on various
> > Nokia devices based on Symbian OS.
> >
> > It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have
> > at hand at the moment.
> >
> > Daniel
> > Forum Nokia
> >
> > --------------------------------
> >
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Is RDA like VNC or is there more to it?
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Rocha
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Hi all,

Thank you all for the feedback (both positive and negative) on the service, I will report that to the RDA team so they can use this valuable information to improve the service.

I will try to answer some of the questions or doubts raised here:

"well, i've tried it, it seems to be great service, but there are some troubles:
- how to install my application, for e.g. install via OTA my j2me game?
- it's really a big problem to test real-time apps. response time is very big, especially with slow internet channel"

You can install your application by sending the JAD and JAR files to the same folder on the device, then clicking the .jad file; this will install your app. To install via OTA, you have to configure the WI-FI connection on the handset (explained in the User Guide), then fire up the browser and download the app from your site.

"Well, tried it , and a little bit disapointed:

- no network access. Documentation says the wifi is available. Wifi does not seems to provides any results! (either errors, or nothing happens)

- no GPS access

- very very slow feedback (especially compared to mobile complete solution). It's not network dependent, for instance if I use logmein to connect remotely to my pc, I have near real time feedback, while it took several seconds for RDA"

GPS access is a problem because the devices are located indoor, so the built-in GPS receiver is not able to gather data from satellites because it has no clear view of the sky. However you can test LBS applications by installing the SimPsyConfigurator, documented in the S60 SDK: it's a sis file containing an application that installs itself as an LBS module so you can at least emulate the functionality of your application, as you'll get simulated data from this module. This is the same approach used for testing LBS applications in devices with no embedded GPS receiver (a.k.a all the others from Nokia) or Bluetooth GPS module (hw).

Feedback is slow, I agree with that, and reported it back to the RDA team.

Network access didn't work for you? I was able to configure Wi-Fi and browse the web at a fairly good speed, as I show here: http://rawsocket.org/?p=371 . This was probably some temporary problem with the network.

On-device debugging is a problem in this kind of service, as the current ODD environment requires either a cable or Bluetooth connection. I don't know whether it could be extended to some other connection type such as TCP/IP sockets, but that would be nice.

Regards,
Daniel Rocha
Forum Nokia

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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 4:32 AM
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

well, i've tried it, it seems to be great service, but there are some troubles:
- how to install my application, for e.g. install via OTA my j2me game?
- it's really a big problem to test real-time apps. response time is very big, especially with slow internet channel

but it can be very good help for developers in nearest future...

2007/4/11, C. Enrique Ortiz :
> I haven't tried this yet, but this kind of service seems phenomenal; I
> will be trying it shortly...
>
> ceo
>
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> > available now for all community developers, free of charge.
> >
> > Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to
> > mobile devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device
> > pool connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in
> > order to remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a
> > device, the screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
> > In addition, the user can install applications on the device,
> > transfer files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables
> > developers to test their mobile applications and services on various
> > Nokia devices based on Symbian OS.
> >
> > It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have
> > at hand at the moment.
> >
> > Daniel
> > Forum Nokia
> >
> > --------------------------------
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Thomas Landspurg

Well, tried it , and a little bit disapointed:

- no network access. Documentation says the wifi is available. Wifi does not
seems to provides any results! (either errors, or nothing happens)

- no GPS access

- very very slow feedback (especially compared to mobile complete solution).
It's not network dependent, for instance if I use logmein to connect
remotely to my pc, I have near real time feedback, while it took several
seconds for RDA

So for instance, using for RDA for testing an app is quite useless for N95
where GPS and Wifi are key features.....

>
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> > available now for all community developers, free of charge.
> >
> > Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
> > devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
> > connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
> > remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
> > screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
> > In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
> > files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
> > test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
> > based on Symbian OS.
> >
> > It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
> > hand at the moment.
> >
> > Daniel
> > Forum Nokia
> >
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Robin Chaddock

I've used mobile complete several times, and although it is better than nothing - it still makes development a very inefficient process.
If this Nokia solution is inferior to Mobile Complete, then it doesn't sound too promising.

The whole concept is IMO a complete waste of time though, the effort would be better spent improving the emulation environments so they can run the firmwares deployed on real handsets directly.

----- Original Message -----
From: Thomas Landspurg
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Well, tried it , and a little bit disapointed:

- no network access. Documentation says the wifi is available. Wifi does not seems to provides any results! (either errors, or nothing happens)

- no GPS access

- very very slow feedback (especially compared to mobile complete solution). It's not network dependent, for instance if I use logmein to connect remotely to my pc, I have near real time feedback, while it took several seconds for RDA

So for instance, using for RDA for testing an app is quite useless for N95 where GPS and Wifi are key features.....

Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> available now for all community developers, free of charge.
>
> Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
> devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
> connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
> remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
> screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
> In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
> files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
> test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
> based on Symbian OS.
>
> It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
> hand at the moment.
>
> Daniel
> Forum Nokia
>
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Thomas Landspurg

I disagree on this: I think it's a very good approach, and would be a
killer if it worked well (IE fast). This does not prevent to work also on
emulation, but even if you could run the exact same software, then you will
have to emulate the real hardware and the same problems will appears (3D
chipsets, gps, bluetooth, wifi, etc.....).

On 4/11/07, Robin Chaddock wrote:
>
> I've used mobile complete several times, and although it is better than
> nothing - it still makes development a very inefficient process.
> If this Nokia solution is inferior to Mobile Complete, then it doesn't
> sound too promising.
>
> The whole concept is IMO a complete waste of time though, the effort would
> be better spent improving the emulation environments so they can run the
> firmwares deployed on real handsets directly.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Thomas Landspurg
> *To:* KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:47 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia
>
> Well, tried it , and a little bit disapointed:
>
> - no network access. Documentation says the wifi is available. Wifi does
> not seems to provides any results! (either errors, or nothing happens)
>
> - no GPS access
>
> - very very slow feedback (especially compared to mobile complete
> solution). It's not network dependent, for instance if I use logmein to
> connect remotely to my pc, I have near real time feedback, while it took
> several seconds for RDA
>
> So for instance, using for RDA for testing an app is quite useless for
> N95 where GPS and Wifi are key features.....
>
>
> >
> > Daniel Rocha wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> > > available now for all community developers, free of charge.
> > >
> > > Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
> > > devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
> > > connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
> > > remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
> > > screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
> >
> > > In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
> > > files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
> > > test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
> > > based on Symbian OS.
> > >
> > > It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
> > > hand at the moment.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > > Forum Nokia
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Robin Chaddock

I think you've convinced me to convince myself that I'm wrong :)

A remote interface to the actual hardware does indeed get around the underlying problems with emulation - though, I think the interface to the hardware needs to be alot more sophisticated than is offered by Mobile Complete.

Attaching a debugger to an emulated environment should be identical to debugging on a local device, which in-turn should be identical to debugging on a remote device. The transition between the 3 should be completely seemless from the point-of-view of the developer. (obviously taking into consideration small latency limitation imposed by available bandwidth)

Logically I see no reason why it can't happen... Motorola, SonyEricsson, and now finally Nokia (with S60 platform 3) have got on-device debugging functionality available on the handsets, the geographic location of the hardware should be irrelevant.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:48 AM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

I disagree on this: I think it's a very good approach, and would be a killer if it worked well (IE fast). This does not prevent to work also on emulation, but even if you could run the exact same software, then you will have to emulate the real hardware and the same problems will appears (3D chipsets, gps, bluetooth, wifi, etc.....).

On 4/11/07, Robin Chaddock wrote:
I've used mobile complete several times, and although it is better than nothing - it still makes development a very inefficient process.
If this Nokia solution is inferior to Mobile Complete, then it doesn't sound too promising.

The whole concept is IMO a complete waste of time though, the effort would be better spent improving the emulation environments so they can run the firmwares deployed on real handsets directly.

----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 8:47 AM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Well, tried it , and a little bit disapointed:

- no network access. Documentation says the wifi is available. Wifi does not seems to provides any results! (either errors, or nothing happens)

- no GPS access

- very very slow feedback (especially compared to mobile complete solution). It's not network dependent, for instance if I use logmein to connect remotely to my pc, I have near real time feedback, while it took several seconds for RDA

So for instance, using for RDA for testing an app is quite useless for N95 where GPS and Wifi are key features.....

Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> available now for all community developers, free of charge.
>
> Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
> devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
> connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
> remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
> screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
> In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
> files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
> test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
> based on Symbian OS.
>
> It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
> hand at the moment.
>
> Daniel
> Forum Nokia
>
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Being able to capture the stack trace (ie printStackTrace(writer)) would make things a lot easier. Sometimes e.getMessage() is useless.

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Hi James,

I'll pass this to the people responsible for the Remote Device Access.
Let's see if they have any comments or suggestions on this.

best regards
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Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Hi Daniel,

I am trying to launch this on a Mac and am having a few problems.

1. In Safari the 'Login' button on the page http://apu.ndhub.net does
nothing

2. In Camino I can log in OK. Though the link to launch the application
doesn't work from the browser I can click on the downloaded jnlp file
and it opens in Java Web Start and runs the app OK. However, as soon as
the app has launched it says my login info is invalid so I can't get
anywhere.

I also tried on a PC, got the app up and running, but when I get a
device up it just stays offline for a while no matter what I click
before the window closes and takes me back to the 'choose device' page.

Any help appreciated.

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Hi Daniel,

I am trying to launch this on a Mac and am having a few problems.

1. In Safari the 'Login' button on the page http://apu.ndhub.net does
nothing

2. In Camino I can log in OK. Though the link to launch the
application doesn't work from the browser I can click on the
downloaded jnlp file and it opens in Java Web Start and runs the app
OK. However, as soon as the app has launched it says my login info is
invalid so I can't get anywhere.

I also tried on a PC, got the app up and running, but when I get a
device up it just stays offline for a while no matter what I click
before the window closes and takes me back to the 'choose device' page.

Any help appreciated.

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Juha Jaakkola

The application actually is a stand-alone Java webstart application. Browser
is only used to pass the login information to FN single sign-on servers, for
making the reservations and finally launching the Java application. This
should work with Firefox, but it might depend on either your Java or browser
settings. Did it give some kind of error message and was it just simply
unable to launch the application? Each browsers seem to handle the launching
a bit differently.

-Juha

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It loaded the xml in notepad when open with

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/9402/rdakt2.jpg

is launched

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

> The application actually is a stand-alone Java webstart application.
> Browser
> is only used to pass the login information to FN single sign-on servers,
> for
> making the reservations and finally launching the Java application. This
> should work with Firefox, but it might depend on either your Java or
> browser
> settings. Did it give some kind of error message and was it just simply
> unable to launch the application? Each browsers seem to handle the
> launching
> a bit differently.
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> -Juha
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Juha Jaakkola

Hello all,

Thanks for all the comments. Here are a few answer to the questions:

1. Installing JAR/JAD. Using the provided application installer is of course
the easiest way: just send the .jar file through it - as simple as that. If
OTA installation needs to be tested separately, then upload the application
somewhere and open the link to the jad through browser. I guess copying the
files to the device though ftp-client and then clicking the .jad/or .jar
might also work, as you mentioned.. Though don't see why someone would what
to do it that way.

2. WLAN works, if the user follows the instruction and sets the access point
correctly. For some devices (like E61), finding the right place to set up
the settting is a bit more tricky. Here's how it goes in principle:

--------------------------------------------------------

Go to Tools > settings > connection > Access Points. Change the "data
bearer" setting from packet data to WLAN. Then select "WLAN netw. name" and
"search for network" from there. Select "RDA" as default network. You will
also need to change "WLAN security mode"-setting to WPA/WPA2. Also go to
"WLAN security" settings > WPA MODE. Change WPA MODE (EAP by default) to
pre-shared key and to the "pre-shared key"-field enter the given key (in
this case "forumnokia").

--------------------------------------------------------

After this is done, the device should remember the connection settings.

I've been planning to setup the default WLAN-access points for all the
WLAN-enabled devices, and probably will attempt to do so at some point (asap
when we get a better mechanism for also restoring the settings).

3. Usage speed. You can use lower colour depth to improve the usage speed (+
there's also the reduced resolution mode) - the less data to transfer, the
less delay (ideally). The distance to server, speed of the internet
connection/local network infrastructure (firewalls etc.) play a key role in
defining the amount of delay. At optimum it is quite close to "real-time".
We realize the usage speed may be a problem, one solution might be (in the
future) for us to have localized servers also on other regions. But
currently no further plans are made.

4. Supported devices. The system can in principle support pretty much all
Nokia's Symbian based devices - although for some models minor
changes/additions have to be made. Previously we've also had there various
S60 2nd edition, S80 and even the 7710 (S90) devices. It might be possible
to have Maemo-based devices there as well (the 770 and 800 internet
tablets). The system can't currently support S40-based devices.

5. If you have comments/ideas on how we should improve the service, contact
the "support"-mailbox mentioned at the RDA welcome-page (ndh dot fi at nokia
dot com). That way the message will get through easier. All feedback is
appreciated and can help us to figure out what we should do with the service
in the future.

-Juha

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Chris B

After having a go on it I've got to say this is very handy and works a treat
cheers! I couldn't get the jnlp file to run through firefox though - so I
did it through IE. Is there a standalone version of this?

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I haven't tried this yet, but this kind of service seems phenomenal; I
will be trying it shortly...

ceo

Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> available now for all community developers, free of charge.
>
> Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
> devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
> connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
> remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
> screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
> In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
> files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
> test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
> based on Symbian OS.
>
> It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
> hand at the moment.
>
> Daniel
> Forum Nokia
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well, i've tried it, it seems to be great service, but there are some troubles:
- how to install my application, for e.g. install via OTA my j2me game?
- it's really a big problem to test real-time apps. response time is
very big, especially with slow internet channel

but it can be very good help for developers in nearest future...

2007/4/11, C. Enrique Ortiz :
> I haven't tried this yet, but this kind of service seems phenomenal; I
> will be trying it shortly...
>
> ceo
>
> Daniel Rocha wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
> > available now for all community developers, free of charge.
> >
> > Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
> > devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
> > connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
> > remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
> > screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
> > In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
> > files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
> > test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
> > based on Symbian OS.
> >
> > It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
> > hand at the moment.
> >
> > Daniel
> > Forum Nokia
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Juarez Junior

This service is fantastic, Forum Nokia is the best mobile community in my
humble opinion. Congratulations Daniel and Forum Nokia!

Kind regards,

Juarez Junior

On 3/30/07, Daniel Rocha wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service, available
> now for all community developers, free of charge.
>
> Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
> devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool connected to
> a server, and users connecting to the server in order to remotely use the
> devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the screen of the device is
> transfered to the user's desktop in real time. In addition, the user can
> install applications on the device, transfer files, and analyze log files in
> real time. This enables developers to test their mobile applications and
> services on various Nokia devices based on Symbian OS.
>
> It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
> hand at the moment.
>
> Daniel
> Forum Nokia
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Daniel Rocha

This is Nokia service, developed by a partner from Finland. I'm not
aware of any links to Device Anywhere.

[]s
Daniel

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Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:59 PM
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Really good news!

Is it based on www.deviceanywhere.com
service, or is it pure Nokia's service?

Regards,

Mike

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Subject: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Hi all,

Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
available now for all community developers, free of charge.

Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
based on Symbian OS.

It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
hand at the moment.

Daniel
Forum Nokia

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Zemlyanukha Mikhail

Really good news!

Is it based on www.deviceanywhere.com
service, or is it pure Nokia's service?

Regards,

Mike

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[mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM] On Behalf Of Daniel Rocha
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 8:51 PM
To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
Subject: Remote Device Access service launched by Forum Nokia

Hi all,

Forum Nokia has just launched the Remote Device Access service,
available now for all community developers, free of charge.

Remote Device Access (RDA) technology enables remote access to mobile
devices over the Internet. The system consists of a device pool
connected to a server, and users connecting to the server in order to
remotely use the devices. Once a user has connected to a device, the
screen of the device is transfered to the user's desktop in real time.
In addition, the user can install applications on the device, transfer
files, and analyze log files in real time. This enables developers to
test their mobile applications and services on various Nokia devices
based on Symbian OS.

It's a nice way to test your application on a device you don't have at
hand at the moment.

Daniel
Forum Nokia

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