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the_darkmaster
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Hi all, this is my first post :)
I use Ubuntu Edgy and Looking Glass runs superb on my Linux Box.
I only have a few questions I can't understand from any document around. LG seems to be not customizable at all. If I open the disc program, I cannot find a way to change the discs available from there and even clicking on a disk means nothing: nothing happens. Same for the backgrounds: How can I add my own? As for games, what's the emaning of Pong and the other game? Pong plays by itself, I don't get it.
I opened a lot of demos too.... there are all those spheres and cubes or Phisics demos wich do nothing at all except moving alone. The meaning? Showing off possibilities of LG? For example, the phisics Tutorial (Why tutorial? This thing doesn't look like teaching anything...) with the two doxes and a bar on the center just moves at start and then stays still. There's no way I can move the boxes... is this the way it is meant to be?? Why?
And how can I run a Linux application? From launcher or from terminal? But if I have to launch an app, I must know the exact command wich is impossible for a lot of people using Ubuntu (Not for me, ok, I know the commands for a lot of apps but I don't get what is this meant for)... also, I cannot remember all the apps I've got installed, isn't there a way to browse my installed apps with a menù like that of Gnome?
Another little think I noticed. I run on a Laptop but there's no battery control anywhere.... Hey, I'm not complaining. keep it clear in mind :)
It is just that I don't get how can I do all of this things and if it is a too early stage for me to hope this things can be achieved at all without a terminal or a launcher :)

Another question. Is it possible to add icons to the 3D desktop? Maybe with the launcher?

Looking Glass is really promising, I allready guess allmost everything I'm asking is like I allready figured out: impossible to do because it is an early stage :) Though I think Looking Glass is really something to keep an eye on, It s also someway usable, even if not completely... Very nice environment boys (I cannot define LG any differently than environment... dunno if it is a right definition)... Keep doing the good work, I'll support you for sure showing LG to anyone I can!! Byee.......

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hermetic_cab
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Hi, I had the same question when I was in looking glass.
All app-icons exept the terminal-app and the 'examples' in the sub-menues does not work ;(
I guess its only a path-issue, because if I start firefox via terminal-command, it comes up (however both browser app seems very slow working).
Using LG in ubuntu hardy heron.

Maybe some can tell us how to set up the right paths so the click on the app icons work?

Second prob I found now is, some background-images seemed to kill 3d action listeners, make it unpossible to end or click anything further.
Even the LG dont want to start now anymore...

Like William wrote not really a '1' version...

Message was edited by: hermetic_cab

William Tracy

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 2:41 AM, wrote:
> All app-icons exept the terminal-app and the 'examples' in the sub-menues does not work ;(
> I guess its only a path-isue, because if I start firefox via terminal-command, it comes up
> (however both browser app seems very slow working).
> Using LG in ubuntu hardy heron.

Are you using the LG3D package for Ubuntu, or did you install it some
other way? How are you launching LG3D?

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hermetic_cab
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I installed the ubuntu packages:

sudo aptitude install lg3d-desktop

and fixed the error with
cd /bin
sudo echo 'uname -m' > /bin/arch; chmod 755 /bin/arch

>How are you launching LG3D?

I can choose it now by the login panel

William Tracy

> I only have a few questions I can't understand from any document around. LG
> seems to be not customizable at all.

That's pretty much the case, at the moment. :-(

Control panel for LG3D--SoC project, anyone? :-)

> If I open the disc program, I cannot find a way to change the discs available
> from there and even clicking on a disk means nothing: nothing happens.

The disc program is a canned demo. It doesn't do anything.

> Same for the backgrounds: How can I add my own?

http://wiki.java.net/bin/view/Javadesktop/MakingBackgrounds

Yes, it's unnecessarily complicated.

> I opened a lot of demos too.... there are all those spheres and cubes or
> Phisics demos wich do nothing at all except moving alone. The meaning?
> Showing off possibilities of LG? For example, the phisics Tutorial (Why tutorial?
> This thing doesn't look like teaching anything...) with the two doxes and a bar on
> the center just moves at start and then stays still. There's no way I can move
> the boxes... is this the way it is meant to be?? Why?

It's a demo of some of the physics emulation in LG3D. I assume that
the source code is supposed to be a tutorial in how to program those
features. That's it. :-P

> And how can I run a Linux application? From launcher or from terminal?

>From the terminal. There's an icon for xterm toward the left end of
the task bar at the bottom of the screen.

> But if I have to launch an app, I must know the exact command wich is
> impossible for a lot of people using Ubuntu (Not for me, ok, I know the commands
> for a lot of apps but I don't get what is this meant for)... also, I cannot remember
> all the apps I've got installed, isn't there a way to browse my installed apps with
> a menù like that of Gnome?

I'll be honest. I personally don't feel that LG3D has reached the
"1.0" stage yet. Yes, it's stable and fast enough to use. No, the
usability is not there yet. It's still built like a tech demo, not a
usable desktop.

(Though, I would love to hear some of the core developers explain why
I'm wrong.)

> Another little think I noticed. I run on a Laptop but there's no battery
> control anywhere.... Hey, I'm not complaining. keep it clear in mind :)

There's not even a system clock yet, and you're complaining about not
having a battery control? :-)

> Another question. Is it possible to add icons to the 3D desktop? Maybe with
> the launcher?

Move your mouse to the upper left corner of your screen. If everything
is configured correctly, a panel with your desktop icons should pop
up, and disappear after you move your mouse away.

> Looking Glass is really promising, I allready guess allmost everything I'm asking
> is like I allready figured out: impossible to do because it is an early stage :) Though
> I think Looking Glass is really something to keep an eye on, It s also
> someway usable, even if not completely... Very nice environment boys (I
> cannot define LG any differently than environment... dunno if it is a right
> definition)... Keep doing the good work, I'll support you for sure showing LG

That's kind of how I feel--LG3D is going in an interesting direction,
but it's not quite there yet.

William Tracy

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