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Bruce Eckel might kick you out of the club...

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Joined: 2007-02-03

What if it was possible to develop Web Applications faster than you could create a spreadsheet; or faster than you could create even the simplest Access database? Would you be willing to break many of the time-honored rules of Java-Javascript-HTML programming? Would you be willing to accept the ridicule of academic peers if you could deliver secure, fail-proof, data-driven enterprise webapps in roughly the same amount of time it would take them to set up a

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Joined: 2003-12-02

and by now it's clear that Bruce has changed his thinking from Java to Flex not because he thinks Flex is better but because he's got a fat contract from Adobe...