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Can the RMS be copied to a PC with the USB cable? Thanks

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C. Enrique Ortiz

No (or should not), on MIDP 1 and 2.

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Joe Bowbeer

On 12/11/06, Chris Rotberg wrote:
> Can the RMS be copied to a PC with the USB cable?

Short answer: No. This should not be permitted on a valid MIDP implementation.

Long answer: RMS data should be protected to the same extent as
forward-locked content. In particular, if the raw data can be copied,
then it should be encrypted in a way that will prevent it from being
*used* anywhere else. (I'm referring to non-public record stores.)

It may be possible to copy public record stores.

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Chris Rotberg

I have a RMS on a handest that is not responding for some reason, I want to
bring the phone in from the field and extract the data to check it out. I
need the data from the recordstore so I want to try to save it

Thanks

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On 12/11/06, Chris Rotberg wrote:
> Can the RMS be copied to a PC with the USB cable?

Short answer: No. This should not be permitted on a valid MIDP
implementation.

Long answer: RMS data should be protected to the same extent as
forward-locked content. In particular, if the raw data can be copied, then
it should be encrypted in a way that will prevent it from being
*used* anywhere else. (I'm referring to non-public record stores.)

It may be possible to copy public record stores.

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John Bridges

The long answer (sic) is that it is quite often possible to extract this
information.

e.g. using a tool such as Oxygen the RMS can normally be backed up from
Nokia handsets.

For Samsung handsets this can be done, although you have to find the
right *## combination to enable this feature.

iirc the LG handset manager also allows you to copy RMS (might be faulty
memory though).

Sony's I have no idea and Motorolas I have seen this done with but it
requires some "dodgy" firmware patches.

Generally everything is possible on these machines as ultimately the
manufacturers leave a backdoor open for engineers to analyse and fix
problems on the handsets.

JB

Chris Rotberg wrote:
> I have a RMS on a handest that is not responding for some reason, I want to
> bring the phone in from the field and extract the data to check it out. I
> need the data from the recordstore so I want to try to save it
>
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: A mailing list for KVM discussion [mailto:KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM]
> On Behalf Of Joe Bowbeer
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 12:18 PM
> To: KVM-INTEREST@JAVA.SUN.COM
> Subject: Re: Can the RMS be copied to a PC with the USB cable? Thanks
>
> On 12/11/06, Chris Rotberg wrote:
>
>> Can the RMS be copied to a PC with the USB cable?
>>
>
> Short answer: No. This should not be permitted on a valid MIDP
> implementation.
>
> Long answer: RMS data should be protected to the same extent as
> forward-locked content. In particular, if the raw data can be copied, then
> it should be encrypted in a way that will prevent it from being
> *used* anywhere else. (I'm referring to non-public record stores.)
>
> It may be possible to copy public record stores.
>
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