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phoneME Feature MR2

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selenau
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Hi,

When do you plan to release "phoneME Feature MR2"?

Thanks.

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stuart_marks
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> So you decided to ship package dated "04_dec_2006" ?
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> Which is better SVN or this package?

Hi, I think you're looking at the phoneME Advanced MR2 bundle, which is dated 04_dec_2006. The phoneME Feature MR2 bundles are dated 21_dec_2006 which are quite fresh.

As Andrey noted, the svn trunk has more recent bugfixes so it should be better code. However, it might contain changes that haven't made it into documentation yet, or it might have temporary instabilities. I guess it depends on what you're trying to do. I'd expect that most people would want to start from a recent stable version, which would be b04 (21_dec_2006) but if you want to keep up with the cutting edge, you're certainly welcome to take from the trunk.

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selenau
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just trying to encourage you...

selenau
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> need few more days (I assume
> not more than 2 weeks)

:)

akz003
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:D

We were targeting the same date as phoneME advanced development release (a day before) - but had last minute broken build...
Andrey may add more details as I am OOO.

Regards,
Kostya.

akz003
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Opps, forgot to mention, sorry, the source code for development of MR2 is out there for more than a week - please check it out.

Regards,
Kostya

stuart_marks
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Right, just to clarify for Kostya, the source code for phoneME Feature MR2 is out there in the repository already. You can look at the trunks of the components and get the latest stuff, and you can see the commits going on. However, to do this, you need to have an svn client.

What's not there yet is the source bundle. There are bundles for the Linux/ARM and x86 binaries, but no bundled sources yet. So if you want to download all the sources without an svn client, you'll have to wait a little bit more.

Of course the MR1 source bundles are there but that's old code.

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rerlin
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Hi,

what is state of implementation of JSR184,(and or JSR239) in phoneME project?

is there any development work already done ?
if not, is there any speculation what is going to happen and when?

Br,
rerlin

aka1278
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Hi Rerlin,

The forum's thread "Support for 3D acceleration" (http://forums.java.net/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=21381) could give answers to some of your questions.
If you need more information please ask.

WBR, Alexey.

rerlin
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thanks for answer,

more needed. What does ment by 'commercial phoneME' and does phoneME feature MR1 really meet jsr248 requirements ?

akz003
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Hi Rerlin,

Sorry for the delay with answer as we just returned from the holidays.

phoneME feature MR1 is based on Sun commercial product that Sun was delivering as a commercial product before JavaME opensourse happened. JSR184 is a part of this commercial product as well as part of JSR248 specification.
As you know the JSR184 implementation is heavily rely on native 3D engine.
The 3D engine that Sun was using for commercial product have a legal restrictions for redistribution. As Terrence mentioned, currently Sun is working on resolving of the limitations as we do understand the high demand and need for this particular JSR by the community.

Regards,
Kostya.

selenau
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So you decided to ship package dated "04_dec_2006" ?

Which is better SVN or this package?

aap031
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Hi!

There will be almost no difference. Yet if you prefer to have some answer - currently there are no issues with trunk contents so I would advise you to checkout from svn - there are couple of bugs fixed in there in addition to what is in the bundle

Regards,
Andrey

akz003
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Hi,

we are about to do it - need few more days (I assume not more than 2 weeks) for final check and scripts tunning as it differs from MR1 because it will be our current in development release which just passed the feature complete state but not much quality testing were performed. So please be patient and ready :)
It will not be as stable as MR1 which were fully tested release product.

Refering Stuarts blog:
http://weblogs.java.net/blog/stuart_marks/archive/2006/11/whats_taking_s...

Regards,
Kostya.

selenau
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"It will not be as stable as MR1 which were fully tested release product."

Will MR1 and MR2 be two separate branches? I mean are you going to fix/maintain MR1?

akz003
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Hi,

MR1 will not disappear and will be supported.
Currently MR1 is on trunk and is tagged. MR2 will lay on trunk either. If MR1 will require any UR (Update Release) an appropriate branch will be created for MR1.

However we are all together moving forward enhancing the phoneME feature product thus there will be periods of time when the code stability will be different.
I am actually have a feeling that there maybe some mix of definitions of MR2: in reality it is in-development code which will became actual Milestone Release 2 when the quality criteria will be met.

Regards,
Kostya.