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[Project Proposal] Docking Framework

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jm7
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Hi all,

I have posted a project proposal at JDIC, which is the extracted docking framework of NetBeans (like FlexDock). Please take a look at this discussion http://forums.java.net/jive/forum.jspa?forumID=72&start=0

However, it's now clear to me that this proposal should have been done here at SwingLabs.

I would be happy to have your comments.

Regards,
Jean Morissette

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jm7
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Thanks for all your help!

The project JDocking is now created under java.net, and the domain name jdocking.org registered. You will be able to access it here https://jdocking.dev.java.net/ as soon as it will be approved by the Java desktop community leaders.

The source code is available in the CVS and there is a Java Web Start demo on the main page.

Now I would be happy to have some help to continue the development. Please, let me know if you're interested to contribute.

kenmraz
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Hi! I have been using Flexdock and saw this project listed. Unfortunately, whenever I click the links to the project page I get an error saying that I don't have permission. Is this an error, or is the project not yet open for general viewing?

Thanks for your reply!

kenmraz
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Ignore that; I just read your message in more detail. I assume that it [b]will[/b] be available as soon as it is approved. Sorry for the stupid question...

Patrick Wright

Hi Jean

One idea is, for the time being, to drop the code into the JDNC
incubator, under your name. That way people can poke at it and
download it, but you don't have to wait for a project to be set up.
Richard Bair, the project lead for SwingLabs, is on vacation, so you'd
have to wait for him to come back before an addition to SWL could be
approved anyway. How does that sound? Once a project (SWL or NB) is
approved, you can move the code there and clean out the incubator
space.

Also, have you written to the NB developers mailing list?

Thanks very much for putting the effort out to get this done.

Regards
Patrick

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evickroy
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You can always create the project under java.net as usual and easily make it a sub project of Swinglabs once Richard gets back. That is how we did the Deployment project.

Erik

rbair
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Hi Jean,

I sent another ping to Tim. He may be on vacation (happens around here every July. A lot of folks won't be back in the office for another couple of weeks).

> You can always create the project under java.net as
> usual and easily make it a sub project of Swinglabs
> once Richard gets back. That is how we did the
> Deployment project.

I would suggest going this route. Projects can always be reassigned to different parent projects. There is one catch however: everything in a SwingLabs project Sun owns copyright to. Hence, if you want your project to be a SwingLabs project in the future, then you must ensure that all code submitions assign copyright either to yourself or to Sun, otherwise we might not be able to accept the codebase in the future (if it would one day go into the JDK).

Legal issues are always a hassle, but better to plan that out now than later.

Richard

jm7
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Thanks for your advices. I will create a new project under java.net. However, I'm now thinking how to name it. Any suggestion?

david_hall
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We don't have a terribly good history of naming projects around here -- there are (I think) two recent naming threads that petered out without resolution.

JDocking?

rbair
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> We don't have a terribly good history of naming
> projects around here -- there are (I think) two
> recent naming threads that petered out without
> resolution.

:-)

Always the bland one, docking-framework?

jm7
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I prefer JDocking, since docking-framework is very long. Thus, I will create the JDocking project in 24 hours, if there is no better suggestion.

BTW, let me know if you would be interested to participate to this project. Even if this project is already mature, there are some issues that need to be fixed.

Thanks!

karsten
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Just as Richard, I'd like to see the Netbeans docking extracted from Netbeans.
And it would be great to have the Flexdock team join the new project;
it would be even better, if they could merge their solutions.

-Karsten

rbair
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Hi Jean,

I've been talking with Tim Boudreau about it, and if he hasn't yet he said he'd contact you. I'd love to see the docking framework from NetBeans extracted, and even better if NetBeans depends on the extracted code, rather than forking.

Richard

jm7
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> I've been talking with Tim Boudreau about it, and if
> he hasn't yet he said he'd contact you. I'd love to
> see the docking framework from NetBeans extracted,
> and even better if NetBeans depends on the extracted
> code, rather than forking.

Two weeks have passed and I still don't have news from Tim. I would like to know what is the NetBeans plan in respect to this project? Is-it possible that NetBeans depends on the extracted code?

Many people send me emails asking to release the code as soon as possible. So, I'm now consering to fork the NetBeans WinSys in its own project. I would prefer to create this project at SwingLabs. Is-it possible? If yes, how to achieve that?

Thanks,
Jean

mydt
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Hi Jean!

I can hardly wait to get my hands on this code.
Every day you wait patiently is a lost day.
Since there is no concrete response concerning SwingLabs:
Please start your own project and release the source ASAP. :-)

Thanks,
Wolfgang

Patrick Wright

Hi Jean

I don't have any say in this in any way, but it seems like a good idea.

The only problem I can see is the implicit fork. Would it be better to
keep this hosted under the NetBeans projects so that you could better
track changes that the NB people make? You can always create a project
on java.net to advertise/promote it, while still hosting under
netbeans.org.

In any case, it seems like a good project to have. I generally like
the NB docking framework, though I feel the mouse/location sensitivity
is sometimes a bitty tricky when moving stuff around.

Thanks for taking the intiative!

My 0.02
Patrick

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