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bobbie
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Hi there,
I'm new to this java. I have installed the j2ee 5 SDk. I have installed the Java3D 1.4.0.2 . When I try and run "HelloUniverse" I have to load the JDK 5 update 6. I have installed Directx 9! I have a preference for Firefox with auto updates - 1.5.0 x. I have tried IE 6. All same result.
"Applet Notinited".

If I try and select Mozilla from Settings-Control panel- Java contol, I get a securty problem "Unable to change broweser settings". I don't think that this is a security problem as IE doesn't work.

When I try and run the demo from the web site using 3D Web Start. I load the required files and then I get a popup for "HelloUniverse", but, no applet runs.

I need to get this going for a project that I am working on. It is very frustrating. I can see how useful Java can be - but this is most annoying and a bit unprofessional that I see so many examples of "Applet Notinited" when I google.

If someone could offer some new advice I would be grateful.

Thankyou for your patience

bobbie

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Hi there Dmitri,
I have got the java working again on the web sites. proxy was set to manual for some reason and yours was set to browser.

Good work and thankyou very much.

All I have to do now is get the 3D working to construct some special charts.

Regards
bobbie

Dmitri Darine

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> One more thing, the browser locks up when attempting to load an applet.
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Also, check Java Applet Runtime Setting in Java CP. It should look like
this:

Product name: JRE, Version: 1.5.0_06, Location: C:\Program
files\Java\jre1.5.0_06

Preferably it should be only one line there...

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Hi there Dmitri,
thanks for the excelent reply. Can't seem to dump the system props. Maybe I'm doing it wrong.

command prompt->c:prgram files\java\jre1.5.0_-6>java displaysystemprops

get an " Access Denied" response.

bobbie
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got the system dump!

bobbie
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Well I got it! There are a few differences -mainly the resticted access at the bottom of the list. Have no idea what these mean

Regards
bobbie

dump system properties
----------------------------------------------------
acl.read = +
acl.read.default =
acl.write = +
acl.write.default =
application.home = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0
awt.toolkit = sun.awt.windows.WToolkit
browser = sun.plugin
browser.vendor = Sun Microsystems, Inc.
browser.version = 1.1
file.encoding = Cp1252
file.encoding.pkg = sun.io
file.separator = \
file.separator.applet = true
http.agent = Mozilla/4.0 (Windows XP 5.1)
http.auth.serializeRequests = true
https.protocols = SSLv3,SSLv2Hello
java.awt.graphicsenv = sun.awt.Win32GraphicsEnvironment
java.awt.printerjob = sun.awt.windows.WPrinterJob
java.class.path = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\classes
java.class.version = 49.0
java.class.version.applet = true
java.endorsed.dirs = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\endorsed
java.ext.dirs = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\ext;C:\WINDOWS\Sun\Java\Deployment\Lib\Trusted
java.home = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0
java.io.tmpdir = C:\DOCUME~1\Me\LOCALS~1\Temp\
java.library.path = C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer;.;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer;;C:\PROGRA~1\Borland\CBUILD~1\Bin;C:\PROGRA~1\Borland\CBUILD~1\Projects\Bpl;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32\WBEM;C:\Program Files\Common Files\Autodesk Shared\;;C:\BC5\BIN;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools\WinNT;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\MSDev98\Bin;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\Common\Tools;C:\Program Files\Microsoft Visual Studio\VC98\bin;C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_06\bin
java.protocol.handler.pkgs = sun.plugin.net.protocol|sun.plugin.net.protocol|com.sun.deploy.net.protocol
java.runtime.name = Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition
java.runtime.version = 1.5.0_06-b05
java.specification.name = Java Platform API Specification
java.specification.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.specification.version = 1.5
java.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vendor.applet = true
java.vendor.url = http://java.sun.com/
java.vendor.url.applet = true
java.vendor.url.bug = http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
java.version = 1.5.0_06
java.version.applet = true
java.vm.info = mixed mode, sharing
java.vm.name = Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
java.vm.specification.name = Java Virtual Machine Specification
java.vm.specification.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vm.specification.version = 1.0
java.vm.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vm.version = 1.5.0_06-b05
javaplugin.maxHeapSize = 96m
javaplugin.nodotversion = 150_06
javaplugin.proxy.config.bypass =
javaplugin.proxy.config.list = http=192.168.0.1:8080
javaplugin.proxy.config.type = manual
javaplugin.version = 1.5.0_06
javaplugin.vm.options = -Djava.class.path=C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\classes -Xbootclasspath/a:C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\deploy.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\plugin.jar -Xmx96m -Djavaplugin.maxHeapSize=96m -Xverify:remote -Djavaplugin.version=1.5.0_06 -Djavaplugin.nodotversion=150_06 -Dbrowser=sun.plugin -DtrustProxy=true -Dapplication.home=C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0 -Djava.ext.dirs=C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\ext;C:\WINDOWS\Sun\Java\Deployment\Lib\Trusted -Djava.protocol.handler.pkgs=sun.plugin.net.protocol
line.separator = \r\n
line.separator.applet = true
os.arch = x86
os.arch.applet = true
os.name = Windows XP
os.name.applet = true
os.version = 5.1
os.version.applet = true
package.restrict.access.com.sun.deploy = true
package.restrict.access.netscape = false
package.restrict.access.org.mozilla.jss = true
package.restrict.access.sun = true
package.restrict.definition.com.sun.deploy = true
package.restrict.definition.java = true
package.restrict.definition.netscape = true
package.restrict.definition.org.mozilla.jss = true
package.restrict.definition.sun = true
path.separator = ;
path.separator.applet = true
sun.arch.data.model = 32
sun.boot.class.path = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\rt.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\i18n.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\sunrsasign.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\jsse.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\jce.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\charsets.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\classes;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\deploy.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\lib\plugin.jar
sun.boot.library.path = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~1.0_0\bin
sun.cpu.endian = little
sun.cpu.isalist =
sun.desktop = windows
sun.io.unicode.encoding = UnicodeLittle
sun.jnu.encoding = Cp1252
sun.management.compiler = HotSpot Client Compiler
sun.net.client.defaultConnectTimeout = 120000
sun.net.http.errorstream.enableBuffering = true
sun.os.patch.level = Service Pack 2
trustProxy = true
user.country = AU
user.dir = C:\Documents and Settings\Me\Desktop
user.home = C:\Documents and Settings\Me
user.language = en
user.name = Me
user.timezone =
user.variant =
----------------------------------------------------

bobbie
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Well this Java is some piece of shit!! Now I have lost all Java use. And, all because I wanted to develop a few apps.

Maybe one of the clever people at SUN could tell me how to restore what java I had before I tried installing their SDK and JDK install files.

Every applet coming down now is "notinited". At least thats an improvement from trying to read to my computer to trying to read from the whole web.

Dmitri Darine

java3d-interest@javadesktop.org wrote:
> Well this Java is some piece of shit!! Now I have lost all Java use. And, all because I wanted to develop a few apps.
>
> Maybe one of the clever people at SUN could tell me how to restore what java I had before I tried installing their SDK and JDK install files.
>
> Every applet coming down now is "notinited". At least thats an improvement from trying to read to my computer to trying to read from the whole web.
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Take it easy :)
Maybe it is obvious and you already tried it, but:

* Remove ALL Java installations using Control Panel, including updates
* Check C:\Program Files\Java\, it should be empty or just contain
empty "jdk1.5.0_06" alike directories
* Reinstall Firefox
* Download and install JRE from
http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
* Visit http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml

What do you see there?

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Hi there Dmitri,
Thanks for the reply. I've downloaded the jse four times now.

I've been through all these http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml pages several times. I've been at this for three days now, which is why I think this product is a piece of shit. Support is lacking in its ability to talk to newcomers like myself.

When I try to enable the browser in the java control panel I get the error message " unable to change browser settings". IE is ticked. But I still cannot use IE.

There is a more fundamental problem with this product. There is nothing unusual with my system. Windows XP pro SP2. That's it. I had the java working before I tried to install a development kit!! Now with just the vanilla flavour I'm dead in the water. It's a pity so many people use java on their web sites.

Thanks again
bobbie

Dmitri Darine

java3d-interest@javadesktop.org wrote:
> Hi there Dmitri,
> Thanks for the reply. I've downloaded the jse four times now.
>
> I've been through all these http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml pages several times. I've been at this for three days now, which is why I think this product is a piece of shit. Support is lacking in its ability to talk to newcomers like myself.
>
> When I try to enable the browser in the java control panel I get the error message " unable to change browser settings". IE is ticked. But I still cannot use IE.
>
>
Well, I just checked Java CP -- I have the same "problem". IE is
checked, Mozilla is unchecked. When I try to check Mozilla and apply
changes it says "Unable to bla bla". But I use FireFox without any
problem! So my suggestion is use my recipe and try FireFox (IMHO IE is
junk). You don't need to manually check that checkbox.

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bobbie
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Hi there Dmitri,
I have done exactly as you have said. Also, Java is running on my machine as I have other programs dependent on java.

I think that if I had mozilla and not firefox the tick would work. Its like the support pages. They do not correspond with the version being installed.

The problem as I see it is how do I enable the jre for web browsing. I use the web for monitoring forex, so you can appreciate my concern, as the quotes come to the browser/program via java applets.

If you can think of some way of getting a pathway to my browsers other than what is on the various install pages I would be grateful.

Regards to you and thanks again.

bobbie

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One more thing, the browser locks up when attempting to load an applet.

Dmitri Darine

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This is really bad. It might be that the browser tries to use wrong or
not fully installed JRE... :(
Can you open Java console somehow and dump system properties? Check the
paths and their existence.

Java Plug-in 1.5.0_06
Using JRE version 1.5.0_06 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM

----------------------------------------------------
c: clear console window
f: finalize objects on finalization queue
g: garbage collect
h: display this help message
l: dump classloader list
m: print memory usage
o: trigger logging
p: reload proxy configuration
q: hide console
r: reload policy configuration
s: dump system and deployment properties
t: dump thread list
v: dump thread stack
x: clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to
----------------------------------------------------

Dump system properties ...
----------------------------------------------------
acl.read = +
acl.read.default =
acl.write = +
acl.write.default =
_*application.home = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0*_
...
awt.toolkit = sun.awt.windows.WToolkit
browser = sun.plugin
browser.vendor = Sun Microsystems, Inc.
browser.version = 1.1
file.encoding = Cp1252
file.encoding.pkg = sun.io
file.separator = \
file.separator.applet = true
http.agent = Mozilla/4.0 (Windows XP 5.1)
http.auth.serializeRequests = true
https.protocols = SSLv3,SSLv2Hello
java.awt.graphicsenv = sun.awt.Win32GraphicsEnvironment
java.awt.printerjob = sun.awt.windows.WPrinterJob
_*java.class.path = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0\classes*_
java.class.version = 49.0
java.class.version.applet = true
_*java.endorsed.dirs = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0\lib\endorsed*_
java.ext.dirs =
C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0\lib\ext;C:\WINDOWS\Sun\Java\Deployment\Lib\Trusted
java.home = C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0
java.io.tmpdir = C:\DOCUME~1\dmitrd\LOCALS~1\Temp\
java.library.path = C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox;.;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\Program Files\Mozilla
Firefox\;C:\Program
Files\cvsnt;C:\texmf\miktex\bin;C:\bin\perl\bin\;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;c:\bin\tools;C:\PROGRA~1\F-Secure\ssh;C:\Program
Files\Common Files\Adobe\AGL;
java.protocol.handler.pkgs =
sun.plugin.net.protocol|sun.plugin.net.protocol|com.sun.deploy.net.protocol
java.runtime.name = Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition
*_java.runtime.version = 1.5.0_06-b05_*
java.specification.name = Java Platform API Specification
java.specification.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.specification.version = 1.5
java.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vendor.applet = true
java.vendor.url = http://java.sun.com/
java.vendor.url.applet = true
java.vendor.url.bug = http://java.sun.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi
_*java.version = 1.5.0_06*_
java.version.applet = true
java.vm.info = mixed mode
java.vm.name = Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
java.vm.specification.name = Java Virtual Machine Specification
java.vm.specification.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vm.specification.version = 1.0
java.vm.vendor = Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.vm.version = 1.5.0_06-b05
javaplugin.maxHeapSize = 96m
javaplugin.nodotversion = 150_06
javaplugin.proxy.config.list =
javaplugin.proxy.config.type = browser
_*javaplugin.version = 1.5.0_06*_
_*javaplugin.vm.options =
-Djava.class.path=C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0\classes
-Xbootclasspath/a:C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0\lib\deploy.jar;C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0\lib\plugin.jar
-Xmx96m -Djavaplugin.maxHeapSize=96m -Xverify:remote
-Djavaplugin.version=1.5.0_06 -Djavaplugin.nodotversion=150_06
-Dbrowser=sun.plugin -DtrustProxy=true
-Dapplication.home=C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0
-Djava.ext.dirs=C:\PROGRA~1\Java\JRE15~2.0_0\lib\ext;C:\WINDOWS\Sun\Java\Deployment\Lib\Trusted
-Djava.protocol.handler.pkgs=sun.plugin.net.protocol*_
line.separator = \r\n
line.separator.applet = true
os.arch = x86
os.arch.applet = true
os.name = Windows XP
os.name.applet = true
os.version = 5.1
os.version.applet = true

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bobbie
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Hi there messengers,
Thanks for the link. Have done most of this , but, will try again! Have already reinstalled, cleaned registry three times.

One thing, I have not been able to set the jre in java control panel for the 3D JDK. Maybe thats the problem.

Running XP SP2

Thanks again.

bobbie

messengers
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For java deployment issues please see
http://forum.java.sun.com/category.jspa?categoryID=13

java3d might not be installed in the public java runtime engine hierarchy ie in
/lib/ext and
/bin.

http://forum.java.sun.com/forum.jspa?forumID=38

might help you out.

regards

bobbie
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Hi there messengers,
could you give me a couple of clues as to creating a path for the 3D app. This package just installs and there is no way to modify it. I have tried pointing to the other directories but without much success.

I must say, I am feeling pretty crappy with all the time I am wasting on a system that seems to be riddled with basic interface flaws. I follow all the instructions and nothing works!

regards