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Developers want less show stoppers in Java-releases!

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Joined: 2004-01-07

Hi there!

I am a bit angry because nearly every release their are some serious show-stoppers.
You never can be sure that an app that ran quite wunderful bevore wont work after a minior update (e.g. 1.4.2_5 -> 1.4.2_6).

If some things are fixed, others are broken.
I am quite concerned that thigs become even worse sonce SUN no longer deploys minior-updates (e.g. 1.5.1, x.x.2, ..) cause this releases were used to fix many fugs in history.

1.3.1_last and 1.4.2_last are quite useable, whereas 1.4.0/1.3.0 were catastophic!!! (not to mention 1.2.0 ;-) )

lg Clemens

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Joined: 2005-03-31

We've worked very hard to not have any regressions between update releases. And while issues do crop up, if you report them to us I'm sure we can get it fixed very quickly. If you have a specific issue that is causing problems can you please expand on it? We might have fixed it in one of the later releasees and might backport the fix.

Joined: 2004-01-07

Well, I ment not only update releases which are under normal cirumstances almost compatible as the upadate release before.

I just got a bit angry since I am developing a client/server software which uses a very broad band of java technology and I found bugs in many areas starting with JSSE, the OGL pipeline, the java-plugin (2 bugs!!) ending with javax.print.
Most of those bugs were reported but it seems SUN has not enough staff to fix all those tons of bug-reports.
Some are regressions (1.5 was a BAD release in terms of regressions), some are there for ages and approved to be a bug and some are just ugly implementation details (like the context-switch problem on XToolkit based platforms which sun decided to IGNORE!)

I always thought its typically for MS when I heard their libraries are mostly broken and badly fixed to guarantee compatbility but the more I use java the more problems I find.

Maybe SUN should try to stabilize Java a bit after Mustang?

lg Clemens