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Installin java w/o admin

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netsql
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> Corporate users live under IT rules, and do not have
> admin privilges. Deploying Flex/Flash is EASY!!!
>
> Has anything been done to make installing Java w/o
> admin priviliges?

This is a re-post from JDNC list.

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podlesh
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Joined: 2004-07-26

But it works on Windows, too. Just pack directory with installed JRE/JDK. Then unpack it on target machine, set JAVA_HOME - and that's all. You can even create Java autorun CD and it works!

Unfortunatelly, this is violates the JDK/JRE licence (I suppose).

allquixotic
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Joined: 2005-05-31

Regarding the zip file approach:

I wonder... if you include the installer used to generate the JRE files, does this still violate the JDK/JRE license?

pthorson
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Joined: 2003-06-13

> In order to install the Java runtime properly on the
> system (including Java Plug-in to run applets in the
> browsers, and Java Web Start to run applications on
> the desktop), the user's account will need write
> access to certain registry items and Windows
> directories. In most cases, only the account have
> admin privileges have the proper write access.
But I do not want to "install" the runtime. I do not want Java Plug-in to run applets or Java Web Start. I don't want pre-release software touching anything that only an administrator should modify. I just want a JDK that I can unzip into a directory to use java.exe, javaw.exe, and javac.exe from the command line.

regexguy
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Joined: 2003-06-20

If we could just have a JRE upgrade that didn't require admin that would be great.

smith001
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Joined: 2010-05-05

Hi,

This is Jessica here from Canada. As I have seen your comments above & I may suggest you that If you are trying to install the JRE on a personal computer, you may grant your account administrative privilege by going to:
Control Panel -> User Accounts -> Change An Account -> Select your account name -> Change My Account Type -> Select Computer Administrator. If you are trying to install the JRE on a corporate computer, please contact the network administrator for administrative permission.
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shotflabz
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Joined: 2010-05-02

erm, i would just like to play a java game called "runescape" i had it but i got a new comp, but i cannot install, any help? i really miss runescape

chrisntw
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Joined: 2005-03-01

I agree that this idea would help remove the barriers to utilizing Java, particularly for WebStart-deployed applications. Add another vote.

On a related note, I encourage you Sun folks (both in Engineering as well as Marketing) to continue to work toward simplifying the process of deploying Java 1.5 to desktop PCs throughout a large organization.

For example -- the other day, I was talking to a Colleague in another development group. And we happened to chat briefly about options regarding front-end clients (pure HTML/JavaScript vs. Java vs. Flash, etc.). He told me that he would very much like to build a Java-based front-end (either Applet or full-blown WebStart-able application) for their product.

Unfortunately the I.T. departments in many large organizations will not install anything beyond "Microsoft approved" software (i.e. Interner Explorer) on their desktop. As a result Java -- other than the broken (and obsolete) Microsoft JVM -- is not available.

This a real shame, as Java -- particularly in the 1.5/5.0 product -- has gotten amazingly good. Kudos to everyone at Sun who has contributed to Java thus far -- and keep up the good work!

[DISCLAIMER: I have not investigated what is out there currently -- software, documentation, etc. -- relative to assisting corporate I.T. departments. I simply support your folks' efforts, relative to continuing to make a push into the corporate enterprise.]

braim
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Joined: 2003-12-02

I agree with you.

stanleyh
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Joined: 2004-02-02

Flash actually requires administrative privileges to install:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19148
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/releasenotes/mx/rn_mx.html#windows

The reason why Flash content seems to be easier to deploy is because the Flash player is often pre-installed on the system.

Let's go back to the original question: Installing Java w/o admin privileges.

In order to install the Java runtime properly on the system (including Java Plug-in to run applets in the browsers, and Java Web Start to run applications on the desktop), the user's account will need write access to certain registry items and Windows directories. In most cases, only the account have admin privileges have the proper write access.

We have received many similar requests from customers. On the other hand, installing Java runtime on the system will continue to require admin privileges because of the write access issue. However, we are considering supporting "elevated privileges" mode in the installer, so users without administrator rights could install the Java runtime if they are given elevated privileges.

joe_sixpack
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Joined: 2003-12-18

all nice and good but for the avergage user. but i'm am a developer working with java since ages and i would love to have a zip/tar archive for windows which DOES NOT touch the registry and DOES NOT MESS with my browser plugings which i can just unpack WHEREEVER i want, and does simple run by using JAVA_HOME set to the proper directory. works fine for me on *nix ever since. i don't realy have the right words to express my dislike for this registry disaster. but i guess i will never get such a zip, because of marketing or legal departments involvment? a technical reason i can't see.

dirk

agma
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Joined: 2003-10-14

Oka, guys, but...

"How to install Java v1.x.x under Windows (whatever) without administrator rights?"

Tha was the unanswered question that still remains unanswered.

Hi.

bino_george
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Joined: 2003-06-16

Hi,

> > Corporate users live under IT rules, and do not
> have
> > admin privilges. Deploying Flex/Flash is EASY!!!
> >
> > Has anything been done to make installing Java w/o
> > admin priviliges?
>
> This is a re-post from JDNC list.
>
> .V

This is a very commonly requested item. I will ask Stanley from deployment team to comment on this,

Thanks,
Bino.