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Ubiquitous JRE deployment... partner with Mozilla/Firefox?

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armhold
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Ubiquitous JRE deployment... partner with Mozilla/Firefox?

We have an app that we deliver via webstart. We'd love to be able to use 1.5, but even a 1.4.2 JRE installation is a lot to ask of some sites. Sometimes university labs balk at installing recent JREs, and apparently non-admin users cannot install a personal JRE without an administator account.

In an ideal world we could count on having an up-to-date JRE installed everywhere. I don't have any brilliant solutions for this problem, so this is more of a general whine than anything. But maybe Sun could make some kind of agreement with the Firefox folks to distribute a JRE
with their browser? It's becoming a very popular alternative to IE.

Also something that occasionally notices that updates are available, and offers to download/install would be nice (think I saw this in 1.4.2_05?)

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podlesh
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JRE doesn't need administrator account. It doesn't need anything - just unzip it, set JAVA_HOME environment variable and it works (even on Windows).

Integration with browser (applets) is problem when the browser is installed system-wide, but user can install it's own mozilla/firefox (I'm not sure if it's possible in Windows, but there should be some way).

slava
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Mozilla's charter is to promote open standards, and open source. Java is either -- why should the Mozilla project care about Java?

patrikbeno
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For the same reason both Java & Mozilla support NTLM protocol and few others non open source and non open standards.

slava
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There's a difference between being compatible with a legacy, non-open *protocol*, and bunding a huge closed-source piece of software.

patrikbeno
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Sure I agree :-)