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Would be good with some talk back from the Mustang developers

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mgrev
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Some "what do you mean", "this is crap", "this would be very hard to implement", "this sounds good", "Concider it added" (my favourite one) - comments by actual Sun Mustang developers would make us posters feel more "interacted with". :)

Cheers,
Mikael

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zander
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Denismo: I always appreaciate when new blood starts new initiatives. But doubtfull as ever, I have to ask how much of a corporate backing you have? Are the suggestions here
a) going to be read by actual developers
b) their managers as well
c) when both like it how likely is it they can convince management to actually follow the asked path?

See; java.net did not bring around much more interaction between developers and the community; I surely doubt any technological directions were changed. Why should we feel this forum will?

denismo
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I have asked several managers, tech leads and engineers to watch this forum for ideas and comment on them.
I am AWT Tech Lead, so you may at least expect your ideas to be heard in AWT/Swing teams.

zander
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> I have asked several managers, tech leads and
> engineers to watch this forum for ideas and comment
> on them.
> I am AWT Tech Lead, so you may at least expect your
> ideas to be heard in AWT/Swing teams.

Thank you for responding to my question in a fair and open manner. I do notice that you only answered part of my question; perhaps you missed it (I should not ask that many questions in one post..)

Management obviously thinks open communication is in order; the question that remains is how much the questions and ideas asked here _can_ be followed up. Are issues brought up here a priority for management?

I feel very unsatisfied with the amount of public-relations on javadesktop.org in contrast to the actual results in the latest Java release.

denismo
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I am sure you understand that no single source of information for us can be a priority. We consider them all together - bugs, rfes, votes, JDC comments, forums, feedback messages, JavaOne interactions, customer problems, personal relations, JSRs, etc. - this all builds up a huge source of objective information for consideration.

denismo
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Sure, the forum just started so it didn't attract significant amount of developers yet. I can't promise for other than desktop areas, but you may at least be sure that your ideas will be heard and won't live in the void.

As for "Consider it added" - there is a big distance between an idea and a feature, and you know the process - file an RFE, vote for it, justify why it is important for millions of developers - and you may "consider it added" :)

mgrev
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Hi, are you with Sun? It's hard to tell who are and who are not with Sun. They (you) should have a _Sun in your nick name or something.

Keep up the good work anyway. :)

Cheers,
Mikael Grev

ps. I'm in a very boring phase in my project a.t.m so I might just post a little too much, as an escape... ;)

denismo
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I am "with Sun"